Tracy R Touzjian wrote 03/14/2007 12:12 PM Anyone have any good responses?? #133155 - 03/14/2007 12:12 PM
Tracy R Touzjian Webboard User Reg: 07-01-2006 Posts: 252 Loc: Offline	I was wondering if anyone has any tried and true responses for those ignorant people who try to shame you for using a prong collar. I am a small woman and use a prong on my 9 month old, 115 lb Boerboel when training or walking. I can't count how many times people come up and try to "educate" me on how cruel a prong is, and how I should be using a Halti or Gentle Leader for training. I try to explain how Haltis are not training collars, and can actually be damaging to the cervical vertebrae. I never get very far. They are always too busy shaking their heads at me. I'd love it if any of you have a good comeback that would shut these people up! Thanks in advance, Tracy
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susan tuck wrote 03/14/2007 12:20 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Tracy R Touzjian ] #133158 - 03/14/2007 12:20 PM
susan tuck Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006 Posts: 1608 Loc: Cali & Wash State Offline	There is nothing that will shut these people up. They don't want to talk to you, just at you. I usually try to ignore and keep moving. I guess their ignorance makes them bliss!!!
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Jan Williamson wrote 03/14/2007 12:20 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Tracy R Touzjian ] #133159 - 03/14/2007 12:20 PM
Jan Williamson Webboard User Reg: 08-10-2005 Posts: 483 Loc: NE Pennsylvania Offline	Tell them the prong collar never hurt the baby. As you think, so shall you be.
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Heather Williams wrote 03/14/2007 12:21 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Tracy R Touzjian ] #133160 - 03/14/2007 12:21 PM
Heather Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-10-2006 Posts: 358 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	"Excuse me, I have been training dogs for 40 years, and I've seen dogs die from the misuse of a halti." I like that one because I'm only 19. People are usually so busy being irritated that they don't think about what you're saying anyway, so I just try to see how outrageous I can be. (I don't say that with people I'll see again, though)
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John Haudenshield wrote 03/14/2007 12:27 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Tracy R Touzjian ] #133162 - 03/14/2007 12:27 PM
John Haudenshield Webboard User Reg: 07-12-2001 Posts: 447 Loc: Virginia Offline	Invite them to attempt to put a Halti or Harness on your 115 lb dog and take him for a walk. I agree with Susan, usually these people are so self-involved/self-righteous that they actually aren't interested in what you have to say about your dog, given that they're spewing forth unsolicited advice to a total stranger. John Haudenshield The School for Dogs
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susan tuck wrote 03/14/2007 12:31 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: John Haudenshield ] #133163 - 03/14/2007 12:31 PM
susan tuck Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006 Posts: 1608 Loc: Cali & Wash State Offline	I like Jans' answer. Perfect "redirect"!!!!
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Mara Jessup wrote 03/14/2007 12:32 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Heather Williams ] #133164 - 03/14/2007 12:32 PM
Mara Jessup Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2005 Posts: 2316 Loc: Offline	There's not really a solution because they don't know enough to know that they don't know. And they they just have to share their lack of knowledge. A) you can say "well, he's already broke two haltis.." B) "but this is what he brings me when he wants to go for a walk" C)"Last time I used a halti he pulled me over, I got a concusion and three fractured ribs - I'd rather not repeat it" D) "But the prong worked so well with my kids!" K-9 Knitter
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Amber Morgan wrote 03/14/2007 12:41 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Mara Jessup ] #133167 - 03/14/2007 12:41 PM
Amber Morgan Webboard User Reg: 10-18-2006 Posts: 1849 Loc: St. Louis, MO Offline	I play innocent and ask them if I can have a business card. "For what?" they say. "For your dog training services," I reply. They act confused and start to blither. My response, "Oh, so you don't actually know anything about dog training? My mistake, you seemed so all-knowing." Carbon
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Tracy R Touzjian wrote 03/14/2007 12:44 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Mara Jessup ] #133169 - 03/14/2007 12:44 PM
Tracy R Touzjian Webboard User Reg: 07-01-2006 Posts: 252 Loc: Offline	Boy, you guys are giving me such good stuff! Thanks! I guess I shouldn't let peoples comments get to me. I's sure like to see them try to walk him on a Halti! He's pretty well mannered for a pup, but he is still a 115 lb pup! He still sometimes loses his furry little mind when he meets up with new people/dogs ect... I can't imanigine anyone keeping control of my bucking bronco on a Halti. Never mind trying to teach him anything! Keep em coming. I love them!
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Guest1 wrote 03/14/2007 12:51 PM Re: Anyone have any good responses?? [Re: Tracy R Touzjian ] #133172 - 03/14/2007 12:51 PM
Guest1 Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2002 Posts: 860 Loc: Iowa Offline	Quote: D) "But the prong worked so well with my kids!" We have a winner!
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