Gabriel Mcknight wrote 03/21/2007 12:06 PM Questioning my GSD #134497 - 03/21/2007 12:06 PM
Gabriel Mcknight Webboard User Reg: 03-18-2007 Posts: 3 Loc: Offline	Hi, I have a 9 month white haired GSD or White haired shepherd dog(in ARBA technicality). She is a very protective dog when it comes to gaurding the house. Which is exactly what we want and expect from her. Well, im leash training her now that its warm outside and she barks at some people who cross her path and every dog she sees. I know exactly how to control her when she gets out of control. But my question is, if i teach her not to bark at people and dogs while on walks will she still bark at them when she is gaurding the house? Thanks in advance, Gabriel Mcknight Below is a picture of her.
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Rich Pallechio wrote 03/21/2007 02:09 PM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Gabriel Mcknight ] #134524 - 03/21/2007 02:09 PM
Rich Pallechio Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2006 Posts: 687 Loc: Washington Offline	Gabriel, I correct my dog when we are on walks and have managed to eliminate barking at people (knock on wood) and cut way down on the barking at dogs. Still, when he hears people or dogs outside, he goes to the front door and barks and growls. When he is in the fenced back yard and something is going on that he thinks is amiss, he barks and growls. I guess every dog is different, but teaching him to behave on walks does not seem to have affected the way he feels about the house and property. Rich http://home.comcast.net/~rrpallechio/Hans/hans_signature.jpg
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Gabriel Mcknight wrote 03/22/2007 11:47 AM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Rich Pallechio ] #134667 - 03/22/2007 11:47 AM
Gabriel Mcknight Webboard User Reg: 03-18-2007 Posts: 3 Loc: Offline	Thanks rich, Its just that i dont want to train my dog to think that every person and dog is good. Thus, giving her the impression that its ok to permit people to enter my yard. I do however, more than anything want to leash train her properly so we both can enjoy our walks together. And also so she can get her adequate amount of exercise. When i got her as a puppy i kept her socialization with strangers to the very minimum. So i dont really know if thats why she is the way she is now. But i will definatly take what you said into consideration. Thanks agian, Gabriel Mcknight
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Rich Pallechio wrote 03/22/2007 12:11 PM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Gabriel Mcknight ] #134676 - 03/22/2007 12:11 PM
Rich Pallechio Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2006 Posts: 687 Loc: Washington Offline	Gabriel, Maybe someone with a lot more experience than I have will chime in here. But I don't think teaching a GSD dog to ignore other dogs and people on walks would carry over to her sense of territory. Might be different with a Golden Retriever. But I think GSDs know the difference. Rich http://home.comcast.net/~rrpallechio/Hans/hans_signature.jpg
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Judy Troiano wrote 03/23/2007 07:03 AM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Rich Pallechio ] #134759 - 03/23/2007 07:03 AM
Judy Troiano Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2005 Posts: 979 Loc: New Jersey Offline	Gabriel, I agree w/Rich but want to add perhaps you could use different commands for the walk from those used in your house. If you see passers-by approaching, use a completely different command for her/him to be quiet. Trainers could give you more in-depth answers about your role as leader, etc. I am giving you an incomplete but helpful idea that works wonders for me. For instance, if I'm walking in my neighborhood, Gunnar is offleash. If a passer-by speaks to me, Gunnar looks to me to see if we should interact with this person. Once in a while, he'll be closer to the stranger than I am and so I'll say to Gunnar, "lass es sein" which means "leave it" and he'll completely ignore them from that moment on. Just an idea to start with.
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Al Curbow wrote 03/23/2007 09:13 AM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Gabriel Mcknight ] #134775 - 03/23/2007 09:13 AM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	Learn to teach your dog to focus on you, there's a bunch of threads on here on how to do it, that's the beginning. That sets up all the good stuff, then its an obedience thing. The "different command" advice was funny, if the dog doesn't listen to one command is it all the sudden going to listen to another? LOL.
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 03/23/2007 09:23 AM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Al Curbow ] #134776 - 03/23/2007 09:23 AM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Most dogs go back to instinct when you're not actively doing something with them. On a walk they're like... oh, there's a leash, if I bark I get yelled at. Not being allowed to bark at people isn't a "oh I suddenly like everyone" its more a "I want to do it but if I do I'll get corrected" feeling for the dog. When the dog is home if you encourage the dog to bark in the house whenever he barks, even associate an alert command with the barking, the dog will understand the difference and go back to his natural instincts. I don't let my dogs go nuts at everyone on walks but they won't shut up in the house if someone's outside
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Judy Troiano wrote 03/23/2007 09:39 AM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Al Curbow ] #134780 - 03/23/2007 09:39 AM
Judy Troiano Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2005 Posts: 979 Loc: New Jersey Offline	Quote: gabriel mcknight I know exactly how to control her when she gets out of control. But my question is, if i teach her not to bark at people and dogs while on walks will she still bark at them when she is gaurding the house?  Quote: al curbow The "different command" advice was funny, if the dog doesn't listen to one command is it all the sudden going to listen to another? LOL. Yea, you're "funny" too Al, especially when you don't pay attention to the OP's comments/questions and then blatantly criticize others who do. Did you work hard at this dumb response of yours or did it just come naturally? Perhaps you should read her post again. It wasn't complicated Al, so I'm perplexed as to how you lost your way . I especially liked your sophomoric "LOL".
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Rich Pallechio wrote 03/23/2007 01:21 PM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #134817 - 03/23/2007 01:21 PM
Rich Pallechio Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2006 Posts: 687 Loc: Washington Offline	Mike, My dog is the same. I correct him on walks, and he knows, or is learning, not to bark at people and dogs. But in the house he raises a ruckus, and I don't discourage it. He'll run to the front door and bark, and if I don't react he'll turn to me, if I'm in the room, or come get me if I'm not. I've thought about teaching him "quiet", but I'm not sure how to go about it, and I don't want to discourage him from alerting us. And it gives me peace of mind to know that if a malicious person comes to the door while my wife is home alone, they'll think twice once they hear Hans barking. If someone broke in, I don't know if he'd confront them or hide under the bed, but I think very few people would try to break in after hearing him on the other side of the door. Rich http://home.comcast.net/~rrpallechio/Hans/hans_signature.jpg
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Lance_Wright wrote 03/24/2007 08:42 AM Re: Questioning my GSD [Re: Rich Pallechio ] #134936 - 03/24/2007 08:42 AM
Lance_Wright Webboard User Reg: 09-06-2006 Posts: 118 Loc: Offline	dogs are capable of following a command, I have a "NICE" command it means we are not fighting,barking, I as the pac leader made the choice all is well and my dog must fall in line. It does not affect his abillity to bark, or alert or bite. during bite training when the d\og is transporting I do not allow the bark, he still knows to attack on the run away. There is nothing wrong with teaching your dog when to bark and when to be quiet....good luck
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