Today while running erands, I noticed a dog that from a distance and at first glance I thought was a GSD. As I got closer, I realized it was a Dutch Shepherd. I stopped and talked to the dog's owner and made a comment that you don't see many Dutchies in the neighbohood. She said "oh no, he's a malinois". I guess the reason I thought and still think it is a DS is the coloring of the dog. He was brindled in color and looked like most Dutchies I've seen. I haven't seen any brindled Mals before so I guess my question is, can a malinois be brindled? I thought I've read on this forum before that mals are usually fawn colored with black masks.
Both breeds are closely related. In the old days ( days of my crandfanther) there were more "mixed" litters and the brinde dogs were sold as dutch and the others as mals So it is possible to get a brindle do from a mal x mal combination
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Most people in the US don't understand that the dutch working dogs are almost all crosses, they have no papers, or the papers they have usually are filled with lies. If you breed an x/MH (Malinois cross) with an X/MH then you will more than likely have a few X/HH's in the litter (Hollandse Herder/Dutchie Cross). Dogs born fawn are considered malinois, dogs born brindled are considered dutch shepherds. I'll bet the guy just assumed his dog is a malinois because both parents were fawn x/mh's.
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There are papered Mali's and Papered Dutchie's too. There are less than a handful of lines of WORKING Dutchie's that are papered that I am aware of, most are showlines. There are alot of papered Mali's, most peoples mali's are papered, from lines such as Lowenfels, Deux Pottois, Perle de Tourbiere etc. Generally when you think of a mali you think of a dog out of these or other well known lines, but the dutch mali's out of the KNPV lines are almost all crosses. You are right, AKC doesn't recognize the Dutch Shepherd but they do recognize the Belgian Malinois -- UKC recognizes the Dutch Shepherd but papers from UKC don't mean squat because I have heard of people with Dutchie's having UKC papers that I KNOW 100% fact to be crosses.
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