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#12902 - 08/19/2004 09:47 AM |
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I am getting lost on this debate. I have a 8 month old Rottweiler. She has gone throu all her shots as the vet said. I come here and see that this is a scam on doing the bosters every yr. When I talked to my vet, He said that Rotts are more prone to parvo and other virals. He is telling me I will be putting my dog at risk if I don't do the bosters.
So here is what I would like to know:
Need to know how to get the vet to do a titer test instead of a Booster every yr?
Or how offten to have a titer done?
My vet is telling me that Rottweiler’s are more prone to parvo. Is this true?
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#12903 - 08/19/2004 11:24 AM |
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there are some other things to be considered in determining what your dog may or may not need for vaccines. if you live on a farm or in the city, plan on breeding your dog; if you show or trial your dog regularly or if he is a stay at home pet; or if you ship your dog often by commercial airlines or even if you frequent parks and campgrounds with your dog. (i cringe every time we are traveling the interstate and have to stop at the rest stops with the dogs.) i believe it makes sense to vaccinate against what your dog might possibly come in contact with, but i also agree that most veterinarians recommend far too many vaccines, especially now that they have been linked with allergies, cancer and auto immune diseases.
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#12904 - 08/19/2004 11:34 AM |
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From what I have read on this site, Rabies is every year and Titers every 3-4, I believe. My vet also requires Bordetella (kennel cough) when we board our dog. Not sure about Rotts and parvo though....sorry.
I would also like to know from the group about flea/tick prevention products - mainly Frontline - and if the generic versions work just as well as name brands? We have always had success treating our yard and house prior to flea season but I now have a Golden who is severly allergic to fleas and must use a topical treatment as well.
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#12905 - 08/19/2004 12:15 PM |
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Originally posted by patricia powers:
there are some other things to be considered in determining what your dog may or may not need for vaccines. if you live on a farm or in the city, plan on breeding your dog; if you show or trial your dog regularly or if he is a stay at home pet; or if you ship your dog often by commercial airlines or even if you frequent parks and campgrounds with your dog. (i cringe every time we are traveling the interstate and have to stop at the rest stops with the dogs.) i believe it makes sense to vaccinate against what your dog might possibly come in contact with, but i also agree that most veterinarians recommend far too many vaccines, especially now that they have been linked with allergies, cancer and auto immune diseases. I looking at sporting her in Schutzhund. I was looking for what the feelings are on this. And not sure what to do. I don't want to over or under vaccinate her. I have to do the Rabies every yr, I think thats the law here.
I am also looking at changing her to a RAW instead of the kibbel she on now.
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#12906 - 08/19/2004 12:47 PM |
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I don't know about rottweilers being more prone to getting parvo, but my vet told me that an adult dog, as long as it is healthy, will rarely, if ever, get parvo. They develop immunity to it on their own. Puppies are still vulnerable to it, so they should be vaccinated against it, but adult dogs usually do not need to be. Even if they do come in contact with it, they fight it off themselves.
Rabies is given for the first time, and then a year after, but then it is only required every three years. In some places they may require by law that your animal get it every year. If that is the case, I would go ahead and do it, but it's good for three years.
I would strongly advise against using off-brands or generic topical flea treatments. Frontline is good, as is Revolution and Advantage. I do not know about Advantix, as it is so new. Bio Spot and Hartz, as well as most anything you can get at the petstore over the counter are to be avoided. Serious problems have occurred with most of them, including death. As far as flea/tick preventative, I'd stick to what you can get only from a vet.
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#12907 - 08/19/2004 10:08 PM |
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Chuck,
From my experience of working at an animal shelter and different vet clinics... Rottweiler adults are more prone to the Parvovirus than adult dogs of other breeds (although I have heard that Dobermanns are also more susceptible). The last time my dog was vaccinated against Parvo/Distemper was when he was 10 weeks old. Three years later he is still showing strong immunity on his titers which I have run every other year. The next time I will only run a Distemper titer since he will be 5 years old and will be at much less risk for Parvo. With your Rottie I would suggest a Parvo/Distemper titer every other year for the rest of her life. My opinion only, of course.
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#12908 - 08/20/2004 08:51 AM |
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Originally posted by Jackie Mulligan:
Chuck,
From my experience of working at an animal shelter and different vet clinics... Rottweiler adults are more prone to the Parvovirus than adult dogs of other breeds (although I have heard that Dobermanns are also more susceptible). The last time my dog was vaccinated against Parvo/Distemper was when he was 10 weeks old. Three years later he is still showing strong immunity on his titers which I have run every other year. The next time I will only run a Distemper titer since he will be 5 years old and will be at much less risk for Parvo. With your Rottie I would suggest a Parvo/Distemper titer every other year for the rest of her life. My opinion only, of course. Thanks, I was hoping someone with a Rott would post. Thanks for the info, I will have her tested every 2yrs.
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#12909 - 08/20/2004 09:17 AM |
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#12910 - 10/04/2004 07:27 PM |
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Originally posted by Chuck Croom:
I am getting lost on this debate. I have a 8 month old Rottweiler. She has gone throu all her shots as the vet said. I come here and see that this is a scam on doing the bosters every yr. When I talked to my vet, He said that Rotts are more prone to parvo and other virals. He is telling me I will be putting my dog at risk if I don't do the bosters.
So here is what I would like to know:
Need to know how to get the vet to do a titer test instead of a Booster every yr?
Or how offten to have a titer done?
My vet is telling me that Rottweiler’s are more prone to parvo. Is this true? i dont know anything about the parvo isssue and rotties but would really like to know from a vet or anyone who know's anything about the laws of ohio in reguards to rabies and giving the shot's yourself? i hear two different stories here.
i heard from other rescue's and also one ohio animal control officer that says a vet must give the vaccine while according to some law sites i read that for ohio either a licenced vet must give it or under the SUPERVISION of a vet.
i dont know about anyone else but i think under the supervision of a vet means that if a vet know's you are wanting to give it yourself and they agree it is ok.
i would like to know the real laws. i have the vaccines ready just in case but right now way to affraid of legal action if i give it to my dogs and my rescue dogs.
i know it saves me money doing all the vaccines myself and i would really like to know if i can legally give it here in ohio.
according to the http://www.valleyvet.com they say it is legal for me give it and legal for them to sell it to me.
so anyone who know's anything about this be it animal control,vet, or breeder who does their own vacc's please email me at obcdpr@aol.com or pm me here.
thankx
tara
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#12911 - 10/04/2004 08:49 PM |
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Just my opinion. You will NEVER find a vet stupid enough to let anyone other than an employee give a rabies vaccine. Why? What if you never give the vaccine, and the dog gives a kid rabies? The vet will get sued and loose everything.
Maybe if you have a vet that has known you forever and they REALLY like you there might be a small chance, but if I were a vet I would never do it. I would tell them to go to a rabies clinic before handing out a rabies vacc without any way to confirm that it was given to the right dog, although honestly I am not a vet in the first place because I am tired of people that want substandard care (or worse for the vet to put their ass on the line) for the sake of cost/convenience. Guess you can tell I worked for a vet some and have heard all sorts of excuses.
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