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				#136334 - 04/02/2007 07:44 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				#136335 - 04/02/2007 07:55 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				I just trained my GSD puppy to like his crate.  
He is in the crate all night and for a few hours during the day. The night time wasn't much of an issue, wined for a few minutes the first 3 or 4 nights. During the day though he whined a lot. I started to give him treats to lure him in with out fighting him about it. Then after I close the door I slipped in several treats through the side vents so he didn't really know they were coming from me, they just appeared on the flooor of the crate    After a few days of this he dosen't give me much trouble. I leave the door open and he sometimes goes in by himself to lay down. I also make sure he has a bone or something to keep him occupied while in the crate. Boardom will drive them crazy.								
				
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				#136353 - 04/02/2007 09:17 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				What Changed?  What are you doing differently? 
Does he have anything to do in there?  Rubber Chew Toy?  Treat Toy?  Something?
 
My pup has one toy in his night time crate that he has had since Day 1 of bringing him home.  The only exception is the few times I have washed it.
 
Now something that we did in the beginning, was to take something of ours that smells like us and put it in the crate with the pup.  We started sleeping with a towel one night to put with the pup the next night.  This was to replace his littermate scented towel that he peed on.
 
Also, like today my pup was being kind of rambunctious, so I put him in the crate after a pee break.  He was a little barky-barky, so I put a towel over his cage door.  He could still hear me but he couldn't see me and he quieted down.
								
				
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				#136358 - 04/02/2007 09:32 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				I'm no expert, but what we did was take the pupppy out at predetermined times no matter what she was doing...she only squawked badly for a couple of days then she got over it...I fed her in her crate sometimes, too..and I always gave her treats for going in her crate on command followed by baby talk/good dog stuff  
clean the crate with lysol/chlorox wipes so she doesn't get used to smelling pee in her crate...you don't want her/him to get used to that smell...
 
if you know that he/she doesn't need to go outside, I'd completely ignore all noises...when/if you reward them by responding, you teach your puppy that that's what they have to do to get attention.
 
we also put a sheet over her crate when she was suppossed to be sleeping...
								
				
 
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				#136361 - 04/02/2007 10:11 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				I'd try breaking this dog into the crate a little at a time.  Throw in a treat for him and leave the door open.  Feed him in there with the door open and water him in there also.  Once he gets used to that put in a toy with peanut butter or something like that inside and shut the door for only 20-30 seconds and gradually work the time longer and longer.  I think you get it. By the way konishiwa sounds a lot like konitchiwa (good afternoon)								
				
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				#136366 - 04/02/2007 10:32 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				haha it is Konitchiwa. I am just learning how to spell his name lol. I really am not doing anything differently. I might try putting one of my shirts in with him to see if that works. I also forgot about the towel trick too. Maybe the combo will work with himm. I have noticed that when he is tired he just goes in and goes to sleep, but during the day if I have to leave, he won't stop screaming and crying.								
				
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				#136405 - 04/03/2007 09:30 AM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				Exercise the hell out of him and put him in his crate. He'll go in and fall asleep in a blink.								
				
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				we are at the point that it is an all out war. today, he decided that throwing in treats was not going to be enough to get him to go in the crate. i would throw them in, and he would walk 1/2 way in and then back out without the treats or he would just lay down and look at the crate and not budge. I now pretty much have to say crate and stuf fhim in there. And after all his peeing all over the house, even after he just went out, I had decided that I am going to do ed's program of in the crate at all times except to play out side or to go potty, and then IF he goes potty, 15 minutes supervision inside, and then back to the crate. Even if he is avoiding the crate, and refuses to get in now, at 9 weeks, with pretty much being forced to get in, will he eventually get to the point later that when I say crate he will go in by himself? ps. He doesnt respond to treats from the side holes either. He sits there looking depressed and ignores them 								
				
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				#136943 - 04/05/2007 10:51 PM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				#136949 - 04/06/2007 12:36 AM   | 
			
			
			
				
					
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				it sounds like he thinks the crate is punishment, which IMO it shouldn't be...I think Connie's got the right idea/question which is if you're not feeding him in there currently, I'd start next feeding...and if he/she likes a certain toy, I'd give that as a reward for going in the crate on his/her own. 
When Brenna sees I have treats and tell her "get in her bed", she RUNS into it and does a 180 waiting for me to give her the Kong filled with peanut butter and Newman's all natural treats--no squawking at all.
 
She sometimes tries to avoid it when she'd rather be outside, but that's too bad. I'm the boss and that's the way it goes.
 
again, I'm no expert, but it sounds like it's just a battle of wills right now and something that you can correct fairly easily if you're consistent and don't give in.								
				
 
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