i have been doing emence amounts of research on dogs diets. i find these topics very interesting and really want to learn whats good and whats not.

i have been asking around and asked a few friends what they think of raw diets and this is what i found out.

most people/vets/food companies in england alone think there is alot of risks with feeding raw diets as they can get worms from raw meat, there diet is not balanced enough and is bad for the dogs health and recomend dry food.

i dont agree with this and wonder where they got such b.s from!
i think a raw diet is your best choice.

I have been giving my dog meaty bones for a while now and so yesterday morning i brought a turkey leg to see if he would eat this as his meal.

he tried to burry it and so i put him outside to eat it instead and he ate the grass around it, so i didnt give him anything till this morning and i tried this again and he repeated what he had done before. i tried this afternoon but i ripped more of the flesh open and rubbed kibble all over it and added tiny bits under the meaty bone, ate that left the rest so that means he has gone a day and a half without food.

i have been adding raw meat chips to his food and he eats that.
am i trying to much too soon? he is literally starving himself, i keep thinking he will eat it surely if he hungry enough but he doesnt, i am thinking of either lightly cooking it to encourage him or chop the meat into chunks.

what are your opinions

 Quote: Toni Bradley

i brought a turkey leg to see if he would eat this as his meal.

he tried to burry it and so i put him outside to eat it instead and he ate the grass around it, so i didnt give him anything till this morning and i tried this again and he repeated what he had done before. i tried this afternoon but i ripped more of the flesh open and rubbed kibble all over it and added tiny bits under the meaty bone, ate that left the rest so that means he has gone a day and a half without food.

i have been adding raw meat chips to his food and he eats that.
am i trying to much too soon? he is literally starving himself, i keep thinking he will eat it surely if he hungry enough but he doesnt, i am thinking of either lightly cooking it to encourage him or chop the meat into chunks.

what are your opinions

No, you do not cook the RMBs. Cooked bones are dangerous.

I would try this extremely simple and very inexpensive suggestion for meals:
http://www.leerburg.com/diet2.htm

Scroll down to either the 90-pound dog or the 65-pound dog and look at the meal plans.

Also, I have had very good success with giving a dog who is new to raw food a little ground poultry just to familiarize him with the taste. Then the RMBs don't seem so strange to him.

i think what i will do is collect a weeks worth of food as listed and murge it into his kibble and slowly take him off kibble if he eats it, i think it will take longer then a week but just to experiment what he will and wont eat

i meant by cooking was carving the meat afterwards and throwing the bone.

http://www.burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk/BARF_Raw_Food_Diet.htm

i found this article and what burns dog food think of a raw diet.
what are your thoughts

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

here is another site. two very different oppinions. notice that burns is an english web site!

Here are my views:
Cooking only kills and takes from the nutritian of any food.

Most raw foods will have what's called enzymes which help break down the food first in the dogs stomack.

When you cook any food, other than steaming, your killing those enzymes so the body has to produce massive amounts of them to break down food, any cook food.

Why has it become the NORM for people to feed there dogs Dog food?????? Because it's easy and cheap.

Does that make it right, not in a long shot.
Just because your dog eats dog food and may like it, that doesn't mean it's good for him.


Take the change in steps, it's like a person eating macdonalds for 30 years, and then going completely Organic the next day.

Your dog will be good and hungry, and then he will eat, whatever you give him.

Good luck

 Quote: toni bradley

i found this article and what burns dog food think of a raw diet.
what are your thoughts

I disagree with it.

Isn't it an "article" from a company selling commercial food?

That's not where I look for information.

i was not looking for info i was looking for other peoples oppinions on raw diets. i chopped some meat of the bone mixed it with a little hand full of biscuits and a spoonfull of dog food and he ate that so i have carved the bone and i will do the same later, i gave him the bone and he wont toouch but.

i think i will leave bones for a week or 2 as i think he has gotten bored as i give them often and try giving them again once or twice a week

 Quote: toni bradley

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

here is another site. two very different oppinions. notice that burns is an english web site!

I am just learning about RAW (mostly from this website) but doesn't this link contradict a lot of what BARF teaches...i.e. don't give supplements (they will make your dog sick) or vegi's,(stating dogs are NOT omnivorous but carnivorous; my dog will eat strawberries off the plant, on her own!), she never mentions tripe. She doesn't say anything about a proper ratio. She basically tells people to give your dog a chicken quarter and your good to go. The only "supplement" she gives her dogs is raw eggs and organ meat.

I don't know, but maybe it is this type of RAW feeding that has veternarians so concerned about feeding pets RAW, or is it REALLY this simple??

this is what im saying so many people are saying so many different things its hard to no which one too trust.

all of them swear blind that they are telling the truth. i think leerburg has the most complex raw diet and to me sounds like a 5 star meal but for convienance, freezer space and defrosting meat etc is a downfall.

this is only my opinion.