Yeah Oprah!!
#139499 - 04/25/2007 11:19 PM |
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Don't know if anyone caught Oprah today, but I did. The show itself was a little goooooey, actually a lot. They talked positive only and called the prong collar the "Spanish inquisition". But, the greatest part of the whole thing was that they had a Vet on saying to the nation, "Your dog is a carnivore and NEEDS to eat raw meat, and no grains." They were talking about the recall and all the problems with commercial dog food. And Oprah said on the show she feeds her dogs raw food. Carrots, potato, lamb, chicken etc.
The training portion was trainer Tamar Geller ( Celeb. trainer) And she said she would never put a prong on a dog. And for jumping, just turn you back and ask the dog to sit. I would like to see her with an aggressive 120lb Mastiff/Saint cross that wants to seek, kill and destroy other dogs manned with a bag a chicken and a falsetto voice.
All and all, it was entertaining but I was shocked at the RAW diet push.
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Re: Yeah Oprah!!
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#139501 - 04/26/2007 12:44 AM |
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Danielle, I did not catch a "push" for raw.They had it on the list as number 1 but never discussed it or said what kind of "raw" they should feed.I feed raw only, cooked food is not raw but OK better than processed kibbles.The problem I felt was that Oprah showed what she fed and it was cooked poultry(can't remember if it was turkey or chicken) with cooked rice cooked carrots and cooked potato pieces.Last time I checked carnivores did not dig up potatoes to eat or carrots and to tell people that those 3 ingredients is what carnivores need was a bit of a slap to K9.No talk about bones, organs and raw meat! I think that was a sad show to the canine world, it was entertaining but not very good at informing the population that RAW is good and healthy and our pets have a huge advantage to that type of food than cooked ones...
People that believe everything they hear and see on TV are going to feed their dogs cooked chicken, potatoes and carrots for days cause hey they saw Oprah on TV do it..not that great if you ask me..It could have been way better and informative of a show, JMO
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Re: Yeah Oprah!!
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#139504 - 04/26/2007 01:17 AM |
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I wish I could've seen that show. That would have been interesting. Maybe they will have something on the website....
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Re: Yeah Oprah!!
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#139508 - 04/26/2007 02:15 AM |
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Lets see here. Never have I seen on National television, anyone promote feeding raw food. Prime time day time? Perhaps you didn't catch Oprah said shes working up to raw for the goldens. So all of those folks that say "I dont feed people food to my dog" may reconsider. So it is cooked, at least it isnt crap like last nights chili or other crap people scrape into the bowl. Her show reaches millions of people a day and if one of those people go on line and research RAW diet and switch and then tell a friend and so on, that is a push. If you Google Martin Goldstein DVM feeding your dog raw, guess what pops up first???? Leerburg Training RAW diet page. Ed sells the books and that is a push. The fact that is #1 on the list is a push. Maybe to an EXPERT like you it isn't, but to the dog lover that is feeding commercial crap to their precious Muffy, may jump on line and take a look. At least it will get people talking. I feed raw as well and I switched my best friend and my dentist and my neighbor and many others to it. I dont think the show was a slap to the k9 world. It will get people talking at the water cooler about it. And if you go to her website and look at the episode, the nutrition section promotes Dr. Marty and his book for feeding holistically. I guess I see it as the glass half full, not half empty. At least it didnt say raw food is horrible, will cause problems, has salmonella yada yada. She had a highly respected and well known raw food expert on the show.
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#139509 - 04/26/2007 02:41 AM |
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I wish I could have seen it. It must have been interesting at the least, and somewhat informative.
Danielle, I loved your comment about the 120 lb mastiff Saint Cross. Heck, we had a 10 lb Maltese years ago that would have walked all over her while giving her the doggy finger.
"A dog wags his tail with his heart." Max Buxbaum
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#139515 - 04/26/2007 06:38 AM |
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I actually thought it was quite good. Oprah expressed that she is trying to work into Dr. Marty Goldstein's #1 choice, raw foods, but is feeding homecooked now. The food that she was feeding to her dogs was lamb, brown rice, potatoes, and carrots. I think it's beneficial if you look at it as a push to feed something better, to simply raise awareness that there are better options out there, rather than a "raw feeding" show.
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#139517 - 04/26/2007 06:49 AM |
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While it is FANTASTIC that folks are starting to realize that what they have been feeding their dogs is NOT what they are designed to eat, I find it simply lamentable that COOKED CHICKEN is being discussed as the healthy and correct alternative.
A raw chicken bone acts about the same as a piece of celery. A COOKED chicken bone acts much like a wooden pencil. Imagine trying to snap a piece of celery... see the effect? Now, imagine trying to snap a wooden pencil. THAT is what is going down your dogs throat.
Chicken good, as the movie says, but NOT COOKED! I'm afraid to see, in two or three months, the number of opponents to raw feeding because "We gave Toto cooked chicken, just like Oprah's raw dog-food diet, and he DIED from a bone splinter! Do your dog a favor, NEVER FEED RAW!" Almost good information being taken totally wrong by the American public, because their favourite source of information (television) had an unfortunate editing error...
Luck!
-Jim
PS: If I *totally* misunderstood the part about the cooking, then please feel free to call me the bad-guy for slamming fair Oprah. No offense intended, Oprah!
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#139527 - 04/26/2007 07:42 AM |
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Hi,
I saw the show. I actually wrote her staff and requested a follow-up show.
The holistic vet seemed to have a lot of great information. I believe he should have more air-time.
Is it just me or did the Chihuahua seem like a nerve bag? The Great Dane and the Spaniel seemed to have solid temperaments.
While watching the Spaniel, I kept thinking, I wonder if this dog can hunt? I know the Retrievers (Labs and Goldens) have the Field Lab vs. pet lab issue. I wonder if the other gun dogs have the same issue?
Anyway, everyone write so that vet can get more air-time.
C White
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#139531 - 04/26/2007 07:59 AM |
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I would write but I don't watch Oprah. Too much "Oprah worship" going on for me to stomach. Glad to hear raw food was at least mentioned by a vet, though.
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#139555 - 04/26/2007 10:26 AM |
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While it is FANTASTIC that folks are starting to realize that what they have been feeding their dogs is NOT what they are designed to eat, I find it simply lamentable that COOKED CHICKEN is being discussed as the healthy and correct alternative.
A raw chicken bone acts about the same as a piece of celery. A COOKED chicken bone acts much like a wooden pencil. Imagine trying to snap a piece of celery... see the effect? Now, imagine trying to snap a wooden pencil. THAT is what is going down your dogs throat.
Chicken good, as the movie says, but NOT COOKED! I'm afraid to see, in two or three months, the number of opponents to raw feeding because "We gave Toto cooked chicken, just like Oprah's raw dog-food diet, and he DIED from a bone splinter! Do your dog a favor, NEVER FEED RAW!" Almost good information being taken totally wrong by the American public, because their favourite source of information (television) had an unfortunate editing error...
Luck!
-Jim
PS: If I *totally* misunderstood the part about the cooking, then please feel free to call me the bad-guy for slamming fair Oprah. No offense intended, Oprah!
Raw was listed as #1. Fresh-cooked as number 2.
As she stated, she was "working her way up" to raw, knowing it was best but not quite ready to do it.
I was concerned about the lack of detail, but not the lack of clarity on which was best. Raw was a big "Number One" on a blackboard list, and there was discussion by both people about raw being best.
But the lack of description of how to include RMBs in raw diets and of how to supplement with calcium in a cooked diet scared me. I really hope there is a followup.
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