ted efthymiadis wrote 04/27/2007 10:41 AM Biting my hand while building Drive #139710 - 04/27/2007 10:41 AM
ted efthymiadis Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2007 Posts: 278 Loc: Offline	I'm having an issue with my dog biting my hand while I am building drive. I know he's not trying to bite my hand, or hurt me in anyway. He's really going for the ball, maybe the string, but he misses from time to time and grabs my hand. ouch. I have the building drive and focus dvd, but there doesn't seem to have a part on hand biting. All it says is to use a longer string. Even when we build focus with a tug, or stick, he will grab the stick firm and them he mouth it and gets closer to my hand (he likes to bite the end of sticks I guess) Any ideas? Thanks
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Carol Boche wrote 04/27/2007 11:08 AM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #139725 - 04/27/2007 11:08 AM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: tedefthymiadis Even when we build focus with a tug, or stick, he will grab the stick firm and them he mouth it and gets closer to my hand (he likes to bite the end of sticks I guess) Any ideas? Thanks I am not sure if this is right, but it is what I do that works...I use tugs with my mal and I keep pressure on the tug once she has a good grip and I also keep my hands close to the sides of her mouth. We taught her to "target" the toy and not hands. I also keep her low and move side to side and not up and down. If I loosen on pressure she will try to regrip....ending in a "*!$&#^" on my end because I was not focused on what I was doing. Ball on a string is used for fetch at my house, I do not let them target on that as my dogs jump pretty high and if they miss they are more than likely going to tag me by accident. Which results in ANOTHER "#(%&%$#)" on my end.....hee hee The only other thing I can say is, I would recommend NOT allowing sticks to be played with. Tugs, gum bars, lenghts of garden hose ect... but sticks can be really dangerous. IMHO anyway. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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ted efthymiadis wrote 04/27/2007 11:28 AM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: Carol Boche ] #139733 - 04/27/2007 11:28 AM
ted efthymiadis Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2007 Posts: 278 Loc: Offline	Thanks, all good points! ted
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Anne Vaini wrote 04/27/2007 01:59 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #139766 - 04/27/2007 01:59 PM
Anne Vaini Webboard User Reg: 07-14-2005 Posts: 775 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	With a long tug, hold it by the handles or ends and hold it out away from your body - teaching your dog to target the middle of the tug. Teeth touch hand = game over.
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Will Rambeau wrote 04/27/2007 03:25 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #139787 - 04/27/2007 03:25 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	If you get a dog into a high enough drive state, you're going to take an occasional hand bite. It becomes as much about your speed and ability to dodge as it does about the dog. Honestly, it goes with the territory. That's not to belittle what's happening, but it some ways it shows just how high you're able to push your dog into drive ( and that's a *good* thing ) If this was happening to you in our club, we'd be yelling encouragement at ya! Good luck! The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Carol Boche wrote 04/27/2007 03:43 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: Will Rambeau ] #139792 - 04/27/2007 03:43 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Well, there you have it..... I guess since my hands and forearms are bruised, scarred and healing in spots I am doin' GREAT!!!! Will, I am getting quicker though, although so is my MAL hee hee Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Will Rambeau wrote 04/27/2007 04:06 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: Carol Boche ] #139800 - 04/27/2007 04:06 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Beleive me, it's harder for older handlers to do the drive building and not get a chunk removed from their hands. We had a new handler join our club several years ago ( Betty Waldron, a forum member ) who came with a great attitude for a novice. As she became more involved she eventually made the jump to a *high* drive puppy which has been removing tissue from her for the last two years. She's trained it to almost a SchH I level but the beast will always be too fast for her....heck, the dog is too fast to all but maybe a trained martial artist, lol. But ol' Betty just smiles and slaps on another bandaid and goes back to training. You gotta love an attitude like that! The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Carol Boche wrote 04/27/2007 04:12 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: Will Rambeau ] #139803 - 04/27/2007 04:12 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	GO BETTY!!!!! WOO!! HOO!! Yep, attitudes like that are AWESOME! Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Betty Waldron wrote 04/27/2007 07:11 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: Carol Boche ] #139825 - 04/27/2007 07:11 PM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	Awww, shucks. It's easy to have a good attitude when you have club members that show up only to help you with your own special Princess Weasel. Not to mention any names but they own a dog named Fetz...... Lordy be, could you imagine the Weas withougt training? Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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Jennifer Coulter wrote 04/27/2007 07:11 PM Re: Biting my hand while building Drive [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #139826 - 04/27/2007 07:11 PM
Jennifer Coulter Webboard User Reg: 04-02-2007 Posts: 749 Loc: Canada Offline	Might I ask what you are building the drive for? Are you working in SAR, some other dog sport? How I would deal with this issue (or if I would consider it an issue) would depend on my goals for my dog and myself. Cheers, Jennifer C
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