 im changing to raw. slowly
#139977 - 04/30/2007 07:48 AM |
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today i bought raw packaged dog meat fom pet store.
prize choice rabbit dinner, chicken, tripe, white fish lamb and chicken necks.
its just raw minched meat. i will start off by feeding raw in morning and kibble in afternoon, raw has more energy so in morning he can burn it off hehe.
hopefully i will put him completely on raw.
i going to keep him on kibble as well till i am such i can naturally balance his diet properly.
so do i just cook rice and/or veg and mix it with a varity of meats. plus bones. will this be enough to be a balanched diet?
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#139983 - 04/30/2007 08:21 AM |
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Toni,
Before you go raw, I would suggest researching this site and reading all you can on the subject.
I am not sure I get what you mean about your dog "burning off" the raw food.
Also, starting off with a "variety" is not the best way to go either. You should start with one kind of meat (chicken backs and/or necks) and add things slowly over a period of days so that you can see how your dog does on each thing and also allow the dogs system to acclimate to the diet.
As far as rice, I only give that for a dog that is not feeling well along with some boiled white meat chicken with not skin or fat on it.
Veggies I would add later also.
Raw and kibble is one way to do it, I know people who feed that way, but it is not something I would do (research raw and kibble feeding). Digestion rates vary greatly.
Also research the recommended supplements as that is important also.
Just my two cents.
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#139986 - 04/30/2007 09:04 AM |
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thanks, i have bought enough to let his body adjust to each type, and i meant by burning off, raw gives them alot more energy then kibble beauce its got more goodness in it so give it him in the morning when he is more active x
i was thinking of mixing veg and meat in morning and kibble at night.
to stat off with i will be mixing a hand rull of kibble and a little rabbit meat as it is a smellyer meat and tasty.
then kibble again at night.
then i stop kibble in morning and give just meat.
i no kibble takes longer to digest and thats why i think its better giving it at afternoon feed.
i realise this mix will confuse his system for a day or too but no more then the kibble already is. does that make sense?
what other ways would you suggest getting him started on raw as he is a fussy eater
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#139987 - 04/30/2007 09:21 AM |
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Personally, I would cut out the kibble all together.
If you are going to feed it, do not feed it mixed with raw. Kibble and raw mixed will only "shock" his system more so than just giving raw, IMO. It is not a big deal if your dog skips a meal for the first few days. Just make sure you leave access to plenty of fresh water.
Finicky eaters, I would fast for a meal (like tonight) and then feed raw in the AM. If I remember right, rabbit is rich so I would start with chicken. You can smear some peanut butter or cream cheese on a piece of meat if the dog will not eat plain meat at first.
This will allow his licking to kick in and eventually he will start to chew on it. I had to do this with the lab.
My dogs gradually increased in energy but they are not out of control with energy so I am not sure that your dog will become a ball of fire overnight.
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#139995 - 04/30/2007 09:57 AM |
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my dog is very energetic as it is lol. i put him on hi life can meat as appose to butchers and he now bombs around like a blue arsed fly. the butchers is around 4% meat and hi life is 26%.
gawd. and i gave him some raw turkey other night, carved it off the bone and he ate it with a tiny piece of kibble so fingers crossed.
im hopeing this is the last sack of food i had to buy today. i am trying to get hold of a small freezer to store the meat in but as my washing machine has just ruddy brocken down it may take me a month or so. and this will give me the perfect opotunity to get him used to raw.
so is raw meat veg and bones all i need for a balanced diet as i aint got a clue where to get supplments from??? i shouldnt imagine they cheap either
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there is some very interesting stuff there although i think i would get arrested here if they found me feeding bear to my dog hehe.
it says you dont have to supplement their diets as long as its over time. what is ment by this?
also when he gets used to this can i mix and match. like feed tripe and chicken backs plus an egg or veg? or tripe and rabbit and egg or veg. if i mixed and matched like this would this be a balanced diet? i am talking about one meal hear.
basically his diet would consist of tripe, eggs, chicken, turkey, rmbs, rabbit, fish,lamb,beef, deer if they have it, duck and pork plus veg. can i supplement with cod liver oil? i hear vegitable oil can be used also. it is already being used in horses
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oh yeah, liver, kidney and hearts and all other organs i will be able to get my hands on
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also i have been feeding rmbs for a few weeks, i think they are pork bones, leg and knuckle but i not to sure. i just go into btchers and ask for bones for my dog, he eats around 3 a week
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also i have been feeding rmbs for a few weeks, i think they are pork bones, leg and knuckle but i not to sure. i just go into btchers and ask for bones for my dog, he eats around 3 a week
"Bones for my dog" is not really what's meant by RMBs.
Again, here's the definition of the RMBs that are used as the core of a raw diet:
http://leerburg.com/feedingarawdiet.htm#RMB
And again, here's a sample seven-day menu:
http://www.leerburg.com/diet2.htm
I really would start with replicating that menu and get a feel for the ratios before branching out a lot; it makes it much simpler.  Then you will know what a meal looks like before introducing a lot of variety.
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