 Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
#145103 - 06/17/2007 12:49 AM |
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Couldn't find any info on the board regarding this, so here's my situaton.
I recently found out that there is a person in my family who is breeding unstable and mixed breed dogs. He is married to an aunt of mine. He has a litter of 7 pups from a Chihuahua type mutt they own and another similar, small dog mutt that was GIVEN to him. He has been advertising to the family, he will be selling them for $100 each and as soon as she's ready, he will breed the bitch again. He was trying to buy another family member's mixed Chihuahua to breed her (they said no) as well as another 2 bitches he's planning on getting. 
The "stud" he has is about as unstable a dog you can have. He has bitten a few people and is also animal aggressive. Besides the stud, he is doing it for the $ and all the wrong reasons. I have gotten the message to him that what he is doing is wrong. Since he does not care to listen to me, what else can I do?
Edited by Alex Corral (06/17/2007 12:54 AM)
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145106 - 06/17/2007 02:26 AM |
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Check the local animal ordinances and complain to animal control A LOT. Like every time there are pups, every time the yard doesn't get cleaned within 24 hrs, every time a dog barks, etc.
I know of a person here who was reported for animal cruelty because "I've seen housecats bigger than those dogs." The dogs were of breed standard size and were in good condition - recent health exams, etc.
Those are the types of unfounded complaints that animal control officers deal with. They might be happy to have a legitimate complaint they could do something about.
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145122 - 06/17/2007 10:00 AM |
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I feel for you, Alex. I'm sure you, like the majority of people on this board, can't stand to see anyone breeding dogs like this, and to make it worse, you are related to this obnoxious person, who's trying to pawn off these crap dogs on other relatives. For me, this is such a hot button issue, it could easily turn into a "Hatfield & McCoy" situation. I have no advise, but if you ever need to vent, feel free to PM me.
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145259 - 06/18/2007 11:25 AM |
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Yes, it is a very hot issue with me and since he knows I volunteer to foster dogs and such, I was one of the few who wasn't offered one of those mutts. After finding out from another relative, the 1st time I told him nonchalantly about what he was doing & the consequences. After I found out, he was going to breed the bitch immediately again and was looking for another pair of bitches, I told him straight up, no BS.
This might cause some friction with him & my aunt and I or so, but he is in the wrong. I'm just trying to show him that.
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145268 - 06/18/2007 12:15 PM |
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Wasting animal controls time on something like this is wrong, and telling him to call them " A LOT " is rediculous. This is one persons view of the situation, who's to say who can and cannot breed dogs? I'm against backyard breeders and puppy mills but we live in America and folks are free to do what they want.
Alex, you told them how you feel about it, right? Not much else you can do, hopefully they'll take good care of the puppies. Try educating instead of preaching, gently steer them towards this site and things like that, other wise forget about it,
AL
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145269 - 06/18/2007 12:57 PM |
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If any law is broken, definitely call animal control. Especially since there is a history of the dog biting!
There's not much that can be done, unless a law is broken. But when that happens, it is a chance for action.
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145270 - 06/18/2007 01:00 PM |
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Alex,
I don't think there is relatively much you can do. If anything you may be able to get them in trouble for having unlicensed dogs within city limits (if you have these laws and they are unlicensed). Is he even seeking medical care for these dogs/pups? I couldn't see a reasonable person paying $100 for these pups, jmo though. You can get pups cheaper from a shelter that have had medical care.
Kimberly
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145302 - 06/18/2007 04:50 PM |
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Definitely check out the local/district laws about how many animals can be on the property. Most places do have codes where you can only have so many dogs, cats, etc. Look at Animal Planets Animal Cops sometimes(if you have the channel) and you can see that if there is someone breeding without a liceanse, letting the house/yard/lot get outta hand, then animal control can put their foot down and stop it.
If not, I agree with not preaching but teaching him that what he's doing can at the very very least be done differently(constantly have this female prego and not getting any time to get time off from popping out puppies is bad for the dog and the puppies both. He could end up with disfigured pups, and a mother dog that will die in a few years if he keeps it up.) Maybe the truth about that might make him at least slow down a little with the "puppy mill". JMHO
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145311 - 06/18/2007 05:56 PM |
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Thanks for the responses guys. There is no way this moron will reason. He cares NOTHING about the female, and his male is an ugly SOB, only he would think of breeding it. All he cares about is making whatever $ he can. He does not care about the pups or where they will end up.
At least I know most, if not all my family will not get any of the pups because I've told them all how wrong he is doing, and if they buy a pup from him, they'll only contribute. There is no way, I could convince him to do right. The only thing I can hope for is very unhappy customers that are on his ass for unstable pups, or no customers at all.
I'm calling animal control just to talk them. I also heard the mother is all skin & bones right now because he has not increased her food intake for all those pups. If A/C can stop by and see her condtion, maybe they will do something or at least fine him, so he doesn't make any profit at all.
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Re: Need advice on relative turned "bad breeder"
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#145315 - 06/18/2007 06:10 PM |
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You ae walking a fine line, my friend. Have you first tried to win him over to the good side as Al said? I really think you will have the best success with this method. My mother taught me two things:
1) You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar
2) Never get in a pissing fight with a skunk
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