Angela Burrell wrote 06/27/2007 01:18 PM Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter #146304 - 06/27/2007 01:18 PM
Angela Burrell Webboard User Reg: 05-10-2006 Posts: 2273 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	This dog is a purebred GSD whose listing says she is a trained SAR dog who served in 9-11. She was dumped in a kill shelter following a divorce. How sad is that? Located in Manahawkin, NJ. http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=8673927
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Alex Corral wrote 06/27/2007 02:01 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Angela Burrell ] #146307 - 06/27/2007 02:01 PM
Alex Corral Webboard User Reg: 02-23-2007 Posts: 1102 Loc: Denver, CO Offline	WTF??? That doesn't make sense. Retired at 7 yrs old? That is sad, the owner/handler didn't try to find someone to take her instead of just dumping her. What an ass.
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Jeanne Woodlock wrote 06/27/2007 02:10 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Angela Burrell ] #146309 - 06/27/2007 02:10 PM
Jeanne Woodlock Webboard User Reg: 01-12-2005 Posts: 79 Loc: New York Offline	If she is 7 years old now, she would have been 1 in 2001. Isn't that young to be a working SAR dog?
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Carol Boche wrote 06/27/2007 02:56 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Jeanne Woodlock ] #146317 - 06/27/2007 02:56 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Yep, too young, especially when most valid certification organizations require the dog to be 18 months old before they will test a team. That is the way it should be IMHO.....I do agree with inter-organization evaluation to keep up on the dogs progress though. I have a friend in Jersey and have asked her to check this out since she DID spend a LONG time at 9-11 with her dog. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Konnie Hein wrote 06/27/2007 03:23 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Carol Boche ] #146322 - 06/27/2007 03:23 PM
Konnie Hein Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2006 Posts: 413 Loc: Connecticut Offline	Quote: Carol Boche Yep, too young, especially when most valid certification organizations require the dog to be 18 months old before they will test a team. Carol is absolutely correct. Disaster SAR dogs (through the FEMA and/or SUSAR programs) must be 18 months old to take the certification evaluation. However, due to the large scale of the WTC disaster, it was difficult to prevent untrained responders (and their dogs) from initially accessing the site. Many dogs and people were there who had no business being there. So, it is entirely possible that this untrained dog and her (very likely) untrained owner showed up at ground zero. And, there's also the problem of folks wanting so badly to get some type of notoriety that they'll claim they were there even when they weren't. Carol - GZ was such a huge site that it would also be entirely possible that your friend in NJ wouldn't have seen half the folks who responded. My husband worked the night shift and he didn't see many of the other people from the FEMA teams who responded. Too large of a site and too much work to do. Regardless, I hope this poor dog finds a home soon. http://www.laforgemalinois.com
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Carol Boche wrote 06/27/2007 03:55 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Konnie Hein ] #146329 - 06/27/2007 03:55 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Sara lives in New Jersey, close to this shelter, I am pretty sure. This is why I am asking her to check it out. I realize how big GZ was, I apologize for making it sound like I meant she would know the dog and handler from GZ.....another typo on my part Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Konnie Hein wrote 06/27/2007 08:56 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Carol Boche ] #146369 - 06/27/2007 08:56 PM
Konnie Hein Webboard User Reg: 03-24-2006 Posts: 413 Loc: Connecticut Offline	Quote: Carol Boche Sara lives in New Jersey, close to this shelter, I am pretty sure. This is why I am asking her to check it out. I realize how big GZ was, I apologize for making it sound like I meant she would know the dog and handler from GZ.....another typo on my part Makes sense. I just misinterpreted what you were saying. Let us know what Sara finds out, if anything. Tell her I said Hi! http://www.laforgemalinois.com
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Carol Boche wrote 06/27/2007 11:10 PM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Konnie Hein ] #146377 - 06/27/2007 11:10 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	I will pass along the message, Sara just spent 7 days here training. She did email me this evening and told me that she has had several emails about it. She has been in tough with the shelter already and is going to be obtaining more info on the dog and the situation. I will keep you posted. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Carol Boche wrote 06/28/2007 10:30 AM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Carol Boche ] #146436 - 06/28/2007 10:30 AM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: shelter worker The wife surrendered the dogs, she really knew nothing about their health status or their ages. She was surrendered as 6+ years and it's not unbelievable to me that she is more then 8 years old. I am not going to hassle these owners who are going through a terrible divorce for proof that these dogs worked 911. She is safe here with us and we are going to place her in a home regardless of her working status. Above is a quote from one of the "managers" of the shelter. I agree with her statement 100% and I am glad they are going to find this dog a home. I did not include names. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Sarah Atlas wrote 06/30/2007 12:36 AM Re: Female GSD - 9-11 SAR dog - dumped in shelter [Re: Carol Boche ] #146648 - 06/30/2007 12:36 AM
Sarah Atlas Webboard User Reg: 06-24-2007 Posts: 2 Loc: New Jersey, USA Offline	I have spoken with the shelter. There are a few descrepencies here. If the dog is 6 then it is impossible for the dog to have worked 911 at 1 year old. It takes at least 2 years for a dog to reach certification age. Secondly, Most of the SAR people rehome within the sar world. WE have our lists just like every other group. If, infact this is a true high drive working dog, to place this dog in a pet home is a disservice to the dog and its new owners. Thr drive necessary for SAR is more than most people can live with. I am not condeming the shelter, just making a few comments. I am involved in Urban sar, worked the trade center as part of New Jersey Task Force 1. I live with 3 working dogs and they are a handful. I commend the shelter for doing the brst they can. Perhaps they need to get more information when taking in an owner surrender Edited by Sarah Atlas (06/30/2007 12:40 AM) Edit reason: grammer, spelling you pick one Sarah R. Atlas
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