GSD 8 months old is limping both front legs
#151306 - 08/10/2007 12:29 PM |
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My GSD 8 months old is limping both front legs. I took him to the vet they said he has water in his both front elbows they going to do xrays 2 weeks from now.
Just trying to gather more information on this, if anybody had same problems please let me know.
Below is what i found online on this:
You probably *do* want to take your pup into a vet
certified in orthopedic problems and reading x-rays just to make
sure you can eliminate hip and elbow dysplasia from the cause of
the problem. (Of course, that's true of all GSD puppies since early
diagnosis/treatment of dysplasia is important to your puppy's
healthy life even if you don't plan on breeding.) But... most
likely the vet will confirm that your pup has panosteitis, an
inflammation of the long bones in the legs of adolescent pups. It's
fairly common in GSDs. It's also known as "long bone disease",
"shifting leg lameness" and "growing pains". "Pano" can be detected
and diagnosed by x-ray.
Onset can be from 5-12 months (occasionally later) and last until
18 months or more. Though it is uncomfortable for the puppy, it
almost always grows out of it. The lameness need not be limited to
one leg. Pano is generally considered to be a polygenic trait with
limited heretibility (1).
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Re: GSD 8 months old is limping both front legs
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#151328 - 08/10/2007 04:33 PM |
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Eimis,
Probably most of the GSD folks here have had some experience with pano. The dogs seem to 'grow out of it' with less concern and worry than their owners.
It falls under the heading of better safe than sorry but the best healer will probably be time. I'm willing to bet the dog is still ready to play.
Good luck.
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Some people say Pano is caused by feeding your dog grains.
Maybe a raw diet would help?
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Also, one thing that shows up on every vet med site (and the books) is that overfeeding in general can be a big contributing factor, and that it may be best to "restrict total quantity to keep the dog lean than to use a low protein/low calcium" food.
http://www.vetinfo.com/dencyclopedia/depano.html
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I am feeding him:
Innova Large Breed Puppy food mixed with little bit canned Innova food.
The dog loves to play and during play he does not look in pain or anything, just during walks he is limping, some days he is good some days limps more.
And I do notice if he finishes all of his food he limps more if he doesn't he is better. I will lower his food dose too.
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#151375 - 08/11/2007 08:55 AM |
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#151378 - 08/11/2007 09:26 AM |
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I am feeding him:
Innova Large Breed Puppy food mixed with little bit canned Innova food.
The dog loves to play and during play he does not look in pain or anything, just during walks he is limping, some days he is good some days limps more.
And I do notice if he finishes all of his food he limps more if he doesn't he is better. I will lower his food dose too.
Thank you for all replies!
I would get this pup off of any kind of puppy food to start with.
I fed my pups Innova Puppy (NOT large breed) for the first month and then switched them to Innova adult at four months of age....the female is now 7 months and is starting raw (I sent the male back to his owner due to lack of trainability in cadaver work).
There is no reason a pup needs to be on puppy chow after 4 months of age since it causes rapid growth. Adult (ALL NATURAL) kibble is the way to go, however the BEST way to go is Raw Diet.
Also, the pup needs to be limited in his exercise and play time to allow time to heal the weak spaces in his bones. Running, jumping and playing will only prolong the disease and could cause permanent damage.
I would also have the dog checked out by a vet. I do not like using meds, but Pano is painful so if your vet gives you anything for the pain, ask for Duramaxx and NOT Rimadyl. Duramax is what I keep in my vet kit for emergencies.
If you do a search of this site on Rimadyl, it will come up with some great research info on the stuff and it SUCKS!!!
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Carol
I fed Pup 'Fred' on Royal Canine Puppy Dog Food for 4 months then switched to Royal Canine Junior 30 for 2 months before i changed him to Raw Feeding, Could this prolonged diet on Baby and Junior food be a cause of his Pano, Perhaps i should have switched him to Adult earlier but i went on what the Makers of the food said,
I have ordered Adult Orijen Food which will arrive on Tuesday, But the sooner i find a source of Raw Diet who will not let me down the better i will like it
Mike should we restrict the running and Jumping around whist the Pup has Pano, He is so full of life it makes it difficult to know what to do with him, When i take him Training I just Walk him around, I am Frightned i will do him harm if i let him go as normal and start to play with the obly Ball etc
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#151412 - 08/11/2007 06:36 PM |
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First, I need to say that I am not an expert in this field, I can only tell you about my experiences and what I do to try and prevent the disease.
The pup I have has a history of pano in her siblings. I have not had trouble yet and she is 7 months.
I have done what I can and will continue to do what I can to slow her growing down as this line also has a history of growing into a larger size than breed standards.
I did not follow what directions come on the back of the bag when I was feeding....I watched my dogs and fed accordingly. Therefore, some dogs got less of the kibble recommendations and some got more. Some get three feedings a day, some get two. I never just feed once a day.
I find that Innova products and Chicken Soup products work best for me with the dogs that come in on kibble. I really like the Honest Kitchen, as people who keep their dogs here are acceptable to raw diet, supplemented with THK.
The adult Orijen food looks alright too, although I have not seen it sold anywhere in my area. I could probably order it though.
I believe we can do everything that we can and dogs that are going to get pano will get it anyway no matter what we do. Then we just have to go into "maintenance" mode and help the dog through the disease. The good thing is, is that once pano has made it's rounds, it usually does not come back.
The only other thing I will say pertaining to exercise is that, it is essential to keep the dog as quiet as possible to allow healing to take place. It may be difficult, but, it is what it is and we have to do it.
Crate time and walks are great....no hard running or jumping. This is only what I have observed of people I know that have or have had dogs with pano and what they were instructed to do.
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