Frank Amato Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2001
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After reading some of the articles on the web about what truly goes into dog food, I have decided to make the switch. The question I have is this, I can get meat shavings from a meat processor for next to nothing. It contains mostly pork, and it's made up of meat,fat,and bone.It is also human grade meat. Is this is suitable for their main source of protein? It looks almost like ground meat,even the bone is ground up.
If this is OK for the dogs,then maybe someone else could use this to help beat the cost.The meat processor usually throws this stuff away,and the only thing he's charging for is the packaging to store it.
Nutritionally, it wouldn't seem to be a problem. However, one important benefit of feeding relatively intact bones is benefit one sees in the teeth and gums. My 13 year old cat used to have disgusting brown plague on all her back teeth from years of eating kibble. After a mere 2 days of feeding bony chicken parts I finally saw her teeth. It was quite remarkable.
Frank, my concern would be that you would not really know how much meat/bone in the dust. If they are cutting roasts there will be a lot more meat than bone, but if they are cutting necks or other parts that are mostly bone covered by a little meat, you wouldn't have a consistant ratio.
I wouldn't use it as a stand alone, but I wouldn't turn it down as an add on either. Try to get him to lable what he was cutting on the package.
I would concur with Deanna, but I am not sure how a diet primarily of pork would do and would want to know more about that as well (gives my dog the runs) --- I know it is not the "typical" but see where it would be cheaap.
I have purchased chicken frequently when it is close to going out of date, giving a rinse with vinegar water and freezing it right away AND I have also shopped at the poultry plant where you can get REALLY FRESH chicken parts fairly cheap (not as cheap as leq quarters on loss-leader sales, though)
WHen I did the math, buying from the processor was no more expensive than buying good kibble
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There is more meat than bone. This processor deals with larger cuts of meat(i.e. steaks,roasts,shoulders). The bone issue I understand,I can always throw in a couple of bones. I can get this stuff for about $5.00 for a 50lb. box, which is a whole lot cheaper than chicken parts. I was wondering if pork is a good foundation for a BARF diet?
Pork doesn't have the same Omega fatty acids that chicken does. I feed 90% chicken quarters and my terriers have done fantastic. Energy level, teeth, breath, amount and smell of the yard waste. You name it. It's better.
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Thank you Old Earth Dog. I have several books on order.I am just trying to do some of the initial legwork with the local meat processors to get a general idea on the cost of the new diet.
The leg quarters are OFTEN on sale in 10# bags as loss-leaders at the grocers.
Several months ago, I bought 80# at 18cents a pound -- more typical here is frequently 49 cents a pound -- you can also get poultry as it is about to outdate pretty cheap (20-25 cents on the pound) but it goes bad REALLY fast so you need to manage it and freeze it ASAP if you do that. My price for necks at the processor is $18 for a 40 lb box -- that really is not that bad. I really like buying there as the difference in freshness is amazing.
New puppy gets necks etc -- I think she will need adult teeth before she can manage those leg quarters
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