Ok Chad - so are you saying every kibble is from rendered products?
I am not saying all companies exagerate, but this one does say:
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"all-natural products with an exclusive combination of meat proteins from USDA inspected plants, quality and organically grown ingredients, "
and
"Eagle Pack uses all-natural, certified organically grown meat from free range chickens. Raised on a feed formula containing no herbicides, pesticides, poultry by-products, fish meal, or protein supplements, the birds are given no hormones, antibiotics, or growth stimulants. No chlorine or fluorides are added to the pure, clean spring water provided the chickens. Our suppliers—a Mennonite/Amish family-owned poultry business—have perfected a full, rich-flavored chicken and earned a coveted certification from the Natural Organic Farmers Association. They ship from USDA-approved plants to supermarkets and grocery stores nationwide, stocking meat and butcher cases for human consumption. No other pet food but Eagle Pack is made with this, the purest of human-grade chicken."
and
Dogs of all ages.
"Pet owners who want to take the holistic approach to their dog's nutrition with holistic ingredients, such as Certified Organic Chicken, Dandelion, Amaranth, Sun-Cured Alfalfa, Apples, Peas and Carrots. "
and
"1. Certified, Organically-Grown Chicken, part of the three most digestible animal proteins"
and
"Chicken Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barley, Fish Meal, Chicken (organic), Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid, and Rosemary Extract), Pork Meal, Dried Beet Pulp, Amaranth, Oatmeal, Tomato Pumice, Dried Whole Egg, Flaxseed, Canola Oil, Dehydrated Apples, Cheese Meal, Ground Carrot Cubes, Air Dried Peas, Sun-cured Alfalfa, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chicory Root Extract, Beta-Carotene, Dandelion, Garlic, Vitamin-mineral fortified and the "Custom Supplement-Wellness for Life" Nutrition Program."
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I know we got into a discussion on "meal" but nowhere I have found, or that you can/will post, state that "meal" means from a rendered product in the manner that most of us think of and understand rendering. In particular all the foods that say human grade meat, which I know is not an aproved term, yet, but miled above many other products.
So you are saying Canidae, Wellness, Innova, Eagle Holistic and all others of that ilk are using rendered products?
Are you saying all products with meal are from rendered products? Do you mean like we all gasp about from a rendering plant, or what many of us do when cooking meals in our own homes?
Do you mean like: "The term "meal" means that these materials are not used fresh, but have been rendered. What is rendering? Rendering, as defined by Webster's Dictionary, is "to process as for industrial use: to render livestock carcasses and to extract oil from fat, blubber, etc., by melting." Home-made chicken soup, with its thick layer of fat that forms over the top when the soup is cooled, is a sort of mini-rendering process. Rendering separates fat-soluble from water-soluble and solid materials, removes most of the water, and kills bacterial contaminants, but may alter or destroy some of the natural enzymes and proteins found in the raw ingredients. Meat and poultry by-products, while not rendered, vary widely in composition and quality."
Or like this:
"Meat vs. Meal Comparison
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"Meat vs. Meal ....on Pet Food labeling
What does the real difference mean to your pets and you?
Meat
(Chicken & Lamb are 70% water and only 15% protein)
Pet food labels found in grocery and mass marketers like to use Chicken or Lamb to represent real meat. – (Contains 70% moisture). This leads you the consumer to believe that their product is meat based. Chicken or lamb meats are heavier than grains prior to cooking. The moisture contained in the meats (70%) is reduced by 2/3rds after the cooking process, leaving the total formula as a grain base food after processing.
VS.
Meal
(Chicken Meal and Lamb Meal are dry and 50% to 65% protein) meat protein!
Canidae Pet foods list Chicken Meal & Turkey meal as the first ingredients. Chicken, Turkey and Lamb meals are dry and are less than 10% moisture and contain 50% - 65% meat proteins. In processing the meat meals do not shrink below the grain weight, producing a true meat based formula for your carnivores. AAFCO label rules require that, the heaviest to the lightest ingredients be the order on the guaranteed analysis panel, (with or without water content)"
or what do you mean? My Ann Martin books are not handy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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