Bob St. Martin wrote 10/12/2007 04:41 PM Urinates when put in crate. #158059 - 10/12/2007 04:41 PM
Bob St. Martin Webboard User Reg: 05-19-2007 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	I have a 12 month old FM Mal (which I got at 8 months) who will urinate within minutes of being put in a crate in the house 100% of the time. Even if she just peed outside before being placed in the crate. However, she does not do this when placed in the cage in the truck. Any suggestions on how to stop this behaviour? Bob St. Martin Search Dogs Northeast RI-TF1 USAR
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Carol Boche wrote 10/12/2007 04:51 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Bob St. Martin ] #158060 - 10/12/2007 04:51 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Are the crates different? My Mal arrived in a medium crate and I do not know if she associated it with the plane ride or what, but she did not like it (she would be restless, but never had an accident). I put her in a wire crate and she was fine. Maybe getting the same type crates might help. Just a thought. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/12/2007 05:06 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Carol Boche ] #158061 - 10/12/2007 05:06 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Also, is it a new crate? No chance that it has pee smell from another dog? No chance that she has a UTI? I know, it doesn't sound like it, with no peeing in the truck crate......
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Bob St. Martin wrote 10/12/2007 05:11 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #158062 - 10/12/2007 05:11 PM
Bob St. Martin Webboard User Reg: 05-19-2007 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	The vehicle has a two dog aluminum insert in the back. She will pee in ANY other crate/cage she is put in. Usually within a minute of when she is put it. It is like she is doing it intentionally. Kind like she is "pissed off" (pardon the pun) when she is placed in a crate in the house but knows she is going to training when in the truck so she is ok with that. Bob St. Martin Search Dogs Northeast RI-TF1 USAR
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Carol Boche wrote 10/12/2007 05:33 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Bob St. Martin ] #158063 - 10/12/2007 05:33 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Next set of questions....how big is the crate? Is there enough room for her to move around alot? Going to a smaller crate and changing them as she grows may help eliminate this issue as well. IMHO, the bigger the crate, the more chance for accidents, especially with pups. Just noticed this dog is 12 months and not 2 like my eyes mislead me to see the first time...... But still, if she is in a crate where she can move alot, that will aid in her ability to go. Also, do you give her a bed or blankets to sleep on? I would take them away and see what happens with that as well. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/12/2007 05:40 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Bob St. Martin ] #158064 - 10/12/2007 05:40 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Bob St. Martin It is like she is doing it intentionally. I seriously doubt that.
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Bob St. Martin wrote 10/12/2007 05:40 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Carol Boche ] #158065 - 10/12/2007 05:40 PM
Bob St. Martin Webboard User Reg: 05-19-2007 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	Hmm.. Good point Carol. They are larger than would usually be used for her. All are sized for my Rottie and she is very small. Like 40 lbs or so. SO yes there is more room than she needs. The truck cage is the same size so I am not sure if that's it, But I am going to try her in a smaller crate and see what happens. Bob St. Martin Search Dogs Northeast RI-TF1 USAR
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Carol Boche wrote 10/12/2007 06:07 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Carol Boche ] #158066 - 10/12/2007 06:07 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Just want to say....yes I know 2 months is really young.....my eyes deceived me and I am glad I noticed it before I launched into the embarrassing (for me) "why do you have a two month old pup to begin with post....." Geesh, what a week it has been...... Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Bob St. Martin wrote 10/12/2007 06:31 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Carol Boche ] #158069 - 10/12/2007 06:31 PM
Bob St. Martin Webboard User Reg: 05-19-2007 Posts: 7 Loc: Offline	I can walk out of the room count to 10 and walk back in and she will be peeing! Never fails. Even if I take her out, have her pee and then put her in the crate. She will pee again as soon as I walk out. She's such a little brat! And I'm spending a fortune on paper towels! Bob St. Martin Search Dogs Northeast RI-TF1 USAR
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Carol Boche wrote 10/12/2007 06:36 PM Re: Urinates when put in crate. [Re: Bob St. Martin ] #158070 - 10/12/2007 06:36 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Have you bleached her crate out good (I mean the whole thing including the side and top)? (I am pretty sure you have, but I had to ask...) That may help as well, and save you from having to buy stock in the Bounty Corp. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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