Anyone use clicker training on a puppy to start marking basic behaviors? If so, for how long should it be used?
Is it counter productive if i want to go on to shutzhund obediance training?
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Clickers are really great. I prefer verbal markers, like Cindy, once the dog has a behaviour roughly down. You can't forget a verbal marker at home when you go on a walk. But clickers are fantastic.
Totally not counterproductive. If it begins to get in the way, you phase it out. If you want to teach a behavior that you don't need to mark, you just don't use it. It's just another tool in your toolbox, and if used CORRECTLY, a very powerful one.
Clicker or marker training should in no way interfere with SchH O.B. unless you are using it to stop behavior needed to do foundation work (bite inhibition, too much heeling on leash too early, not jumping on you, etc.) Virtually all positive training without correction during foundation work is fine.
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Brilliant! Thanks, John. That explanation (and the idea about Jumping) is absolutely perfect. Now I know how to handle my dilemna about Macy. My wife hates that she jumps, but I've been hesitating to give her a good correction for it because I don't want her to lose the behavior altogether.
I have to say that if you are doing early heeling training on leash and your dog is "hitting the end of the leash" during this training you are doing it wrong (if you are trying to do this with a clicker or marker training)
I don't see one thing wrong with doing heeling training with markers because it has nothing to do with leash corrections at all (if done properly) If you are using leash corrections to do heeling or any leash work, then it is best to wait til the dog is solid in bitework.
See the video clip another poster started a thread for 16 week old puppy heeling very nicely.
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IMO, clicker training is a great way to start teaching the dog the meaning of markers. Like Cindy, I also substituted the clicker with a verbal marker once the dog got the hang of specific behaviors, for practical reasons mainly. I haven't used a clicker in months, but the other day at obedience class, a man used it and my dog quickly looked at him like "hey, I know that sound".
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