I AM A NEW MEMBER AND I AM LOOKING FOR ANY HELP IN TRAINING A 17 MONTH MAL IN TRACKING, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING VERY GOOD(BITE WORK ,ARTICLES SEARCH , OBEDENCE, AGILITY AND SO ON, THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE TRACKING HE WILL DO STRAIGHT TRACKS ALL DAY AND ALL LENGHTS PROBLEM IS THE TURNS, HE SHOWS LOSE OF TRACK WHEN HE COMES TO THE TURN BUT IS VERY SLOW IN PICKING THE TURN UP THE TRACK IS GOOD WHEN HE DOES BUT I WOULD LIKE HIM TO PICK UP THE TURN FASTER AND WORK HARDER AT THE TURN. ANY IDEAS
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005
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Hi Randy and welcome..... Good to see another Mali handler.
While I am sure you will get some great responses here, I would like to suggest maybe not using all CAPS, on the internet it is considered "yelling". Just an FYI for you.
You have joined a great board.
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thanks carol, this is my second mal i have been handling the pup dad for about 8 years now and i think i got spoiled by him he is so strong in all areas and was very easy to train and i try not to compare the two but it is difficult to do randy
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How long have you been tracking him? Does he blow the corners and then come back to them? I am unfamiliar with "tracking" terminology as everyone seems to use something different and I train trailing. I am learning tracking so the answers will interest me as well.
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I am going to take a shot here and throw this out assuming that you are working 90 degree corners.....
What about making the corners more gradual with more "reward" in the footsteps in the curve, then once he is taking the curve nicely, gradually sharpen the turn until it is a 90 degree?
It almost sounds as though he is not putting two and two together yet maybe?
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The fact that your dog is giving and you are recognizing the loss of track at the corner is key! Is your dog providing and are you recognizing the change in body language when he “cuts” into the track?
When your dog over shoots the corner and you see visible signs of track loss, work on circling your dog so that he hits the missed leg of the track at 90 degrees.
You can lay a number of short 100’ straight leg tracks at 20 yard increments and spend a tracking session just working on cutting the dog into the tracks at 90 degrees. If your dog cuts the track correctly …BAM… hit him with his reward and then goto the next track and cut him into that one. If he hits this one right… BAM again! You can get a ton of benefit using this method in a very short time.
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So Matt, since I am new to the whole tracking part of this, (trailing is a whole different ball game in regards to the dog not being right "on top" of the track), what I explained, I am assuming, will not work?
I understand the "casting" part.
I am asking because I am trying to learn this. It is interesting to me and I would love to try it.
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Carol… Your way will work fine too! I love using food rewards for a number of tracking areas. You could use them for this as well.. it all depends in my eyes on the dog’s motivation. Gradual curves as you illustrated will work well too. There are more ways to address tracking issues that many other areas.
IMO police tracking is a mix of learning to read when your dog looses and cuts into scent as well as good line handling. If you circle the dog when you recognize that he’s blown a turn it’s just a matter of circling him until he cuts into the missing leg of the track… when you get good at reading that body language you are going to be a successful tracking team.
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