Okay, I am a little confused on corrections. In Leerburgs ebook on corrections, he recommends grabbing a pup by the scruff and telling him to knock it off....which is what i have been doing to this point. Is this even too much for an 8 week old pup? I just feel like you can't let bad habits like nipping, chewing on bad things (which is all i currently correct her for) go on for months without any sort of correction and then all of a sudden start correcting. Another question, how long after a correction until you 'play sweet' with the pup again? Thoughts? Y'all are a huge help. this is just my main focus right now, I don't want a dog that bites especially, for any reason.
p.s. she is not a big biter at all, it is rare, maybe one nip per play period, which actually surprises me, but when it happens i feel like i have to do something or it will worsen.
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Instead of the scruff, which is negative (but sometimes needed) you can redirect her mouth to something that is acceptable for her to have and chew on.
This will help teach her in a positive way, what is okay and what is not okay.
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If you do correct the dog, your attitude should change back to "happy" immediately when the dog stops the behaviour.
For example, when my puppies bite and I don't have any toy handy to redirect to (bad me!) I growl at them and push them off, or hold their snout until they let go. The instant the dog backs off and closes its mouth, I praise "yay, good puppy!"
Think of training a dog to sit; you should praise the instant its butt hits the floor, so they connect the action they just did as the action you were asking for. It is the same idea with corrections. When the dog stops the unwanted behaviour, you stop the correction (even by a cold shoulder or a grudge type thing) and go back to your regular "happy" self.
I have found that timing is even more important with puppies than with adult dogs. Hope that helps.
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Quote: angela burrell
If you do correct the dog, your attitude should change back to "happy" immediately when the dog stops the behaviour.
Excellent point. This is huge, and a great reminder about not "carrying a grudge."
It has to be black and white which behavior is not good and which is good. Timing timing timimg.
I mentioned once before a good example of the bizarre behavior dog-training can require: A recently-adopted dog who wanted to wiggle under the gate. He was being trained not to. This involved at least one occasion of me saying (in the deep "no" voice) "NO!" and then, when he switched direction halfway under and started to wiggle back, saying in the higher "happy-good" voice "YES!"
It can look pretty stupid. But it is what's necessary: timing.
There are so many owners who will call a dog and then correct for something the dog had done 45 seconds ago, and then keep scolding..... not just unproductive, but damaging. The dog, of course, learns two things: Obeying the recall leads to bad stuff, and the handler sometimes uses the no voice when the dog is doing nothing unwanted.
Many people on this board train dogs for Sport or Protection work. They don't want to correct the puppy for biting, because it will need to bite for the Sport.
If your puppy is only a "pet" then you can train it that any bite on a person is NOT "ok". Give him a correction for the bite then redirect to a toy.
Someone correct me if you think this is wrong. I'm a little torn with Starbuck on whether or not I will train her for sport, so I put up with a lot more biting that I have for any previous “pets”.
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