 Vet claims to "groom" the perfect puppy
#165420 - 11/28/2007 04:32 PM |
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Yikes! Check this out (give it a minute to load):
http://www.theksbwchannel.com/news/14709191/detail.html
"It's not really puppy torture, Birkenblitt said -- the kids are told to reward the puppies while simultaneously pulling their tails, rubbing their ears and touching their feet."
Sounds like the perfect recipe for puppy schizophrenia. This guy ought to be cited for animal cruelty.
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Re: Vet claims to "groom" the perfect puppy
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#165423 - 11/28/2007 04:37 PM |
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I didn't see anything wrong with any of that?? Done properly, that's what socialization's all about: exposure.
I wouldn't want to own the nervebag of a dog that couldn't take being handled.
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#165426 - 11/28/2007 04:43 PM |
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Re: Vet claims to "groom" the perfect puppy
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#165428 - 11/28/2007 04:47 PM |
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But doesn't this fly in the face of just about everything I've ever read on this site? Kids pulling on puppie's tails, doggie day care for puppies? I'm asking a sincere question, Mike, and not trying at all to be argumentative.
I totally agree puppies need to be socialized but this "project" seems...wrong. Maybe I'm wrong.
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#165430 - 11/28/2007 04:54 PM |
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Well, I agree with you on the doggy daycare stuff, that stuff is crap. That type of socialization can be better handled in other ways.
But for the rest, I am not picturing a crowd of 5 or 6 kids all yanking the puppies tail and pinching his ears. To me it sounds more like basic handling. The dog is learning to tollerate his tail and paws and ears being messed with. For a pet that is going to be around kids with no purpose in life other than to be a nice family dog, this isn't a bad thing, as long as the kids really don't yank the pups tail off or pinch the ears.
Its not all that much different to what I do with pups, push em around, let em fall over, poke em, play with ears and paws, pet them roughly etc. Just standard puppy play stuff, not going overboard and beating up the pup 
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#165432 - 11/28/2007 04:56 PM |
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Maybe I'm feeling a tad bit cynical today, but it sounds like a bunch of hooey just to make money. I can't stand the "doggy day care" set. As if any dog wants to spend it's day out of it's own territory without it's own pack (2 or 4 legged). So sure, for those people that don't have any common sense whatsoever, or for those for whom it is too dificult to learn how to handle a new puppy, then great, have at it, waste more money. If this is geared towards people who don't have "time" to do it themselves, when are they going to have any "time" to spend with the dog anyway. They should get fish.
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#165433 - 11/28/2007 04:56 PM |
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I think if it's done right, this is a good idea. I personally have done a lot of this w/my pup - taking him out into public a lot, making him sit so that he can be petted by other kids/adults (totally under my control at all times, however). I even gently give his ears a tug or handle his tail a little bit while he's eating, touch his feet, etc. I do it only occassionally, though - I don't want to harass him while he's eating. I also do this myself - I don't have strange kids do it. I figure if Kodee is laying down minding his business, or even eating, and my two yr old grabs an ear, it won't be a total shock to Kodee (although really, my 2 year old will never be alone w/my dog, let alone while he's eating!) But you see my point - just getting pups used to this stuff helps prevent them from being so touchy later, I think.
Also, these pups are being groomed to be family pets - not working dogs. I think you wouldn't want a working dog just exposed to kids/people "willy nilly", but that's just my assumption.
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#165435 - 11/28/2007 05:04 PM |
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but it sounds like a bunch of hooey just to make money.
Heck yeah it is LOL. Its obviously basic doggy psychology at best. The guy just stuck it in a press release with some fancy wording and the papers bought it. Great marketing if you ask me!
But that doesn't make the basic concept of what he does with the pups wrong, it just makes the people who buy into paying someone to do this for them real morons
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and that's why they should get fish.
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#165548 - 11/29/2007 12:33 AM |
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As if any dog wants to spend it's day out of it's own territory without it's own pack (2 or 4 legged).
Have you ever been to a doggy daycare? I've worked at a few in my day and I couldn't disagree with you more. Now I probably wouldn't bring my dog because I want to have complete control over her environment and reinforcement but I met many a dog who absolutely loved coming to doggy day care and it allowed the owner who works 8-10 hours to let their high energy dog get some play time while their at work.
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