Michael West wrote 01/09/2008 05:58 AM Ditch Weed. #174026 - 01/09/2008 05:58 AM
Michael West Webboard User Reg: 05-23-2007 Posts: 551 Loc: Washington, USA Offline	Long story short: I was recently searching through some abandoned buildings that people where useing to store hay. So i was searching the 5th or 6th building (and by searching i mean scanning for the most part) and then my dog starts giving me all the small indicators in his body language that he found something and then he give me his final response. I mean there is no way this was a false sit. So i pull my dog out of the room and step into another room as the squad i was with starts pulling down and digging up the hay, about 10-15 bails of hay later the squad leader sees some leafy weeds mixed into the hay, Then he identifies it as Ditch Weed. At this point the odor was all over the house and Allan showed interest in the ditch weed so we stopped the search there. Now i have two questions. First: What exactly IS Ditch Weed. Second: Is there a way to prevent this from happening again? Michael.West "Everything flows down leash"
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Charlie Snyder wrote 01/09/2008 07:05 AM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Michael West ] #174030 - 01/09/2008 07:05 AM
Charlie Snyder Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2001 Posts: 999 Loc: Offline	Ditch weed is sometimes slang for low-grade marijuana or cannibis. In the midwest, it's sometimes found growing wild in the roadside ditches. Hence, 'Ditch Weed'. Back during WWII, the supplies of hemp were cut off. Since rope was considered a vital material, the feds needed a domestic supply. So the government got farmers to grow the hemp plant. After the war, the supply of real hemp was once more available. The stuff that was planted went to seed. You find a lot of it in the Dakotas, Kansas and Nebraska.
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Carol Boche wrote 01/09/2008 11:53 AM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Charlie Snyder ] #174079 - 01/09/2008 11:53 AM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: Charlie Snyder You find a lot of it in the Dakotas, Kansas and Nebraska. You got that right......we have TONS of it here. When we ride through the pastures to gather or check cattle, we run into huge patches of it. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Debbie Bruce wrote 01/09/2008 12:50 PM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Carol Boche ] #174093 - 01/09/2008 12:50 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	I would speculate that if there was lots of ditch weed/Hemp present in an area that the people trying to grow high potency marjuana would have trouble with their crop. They don't want the buds pollinated. Ditch weed would send out lots of pollen which could find it's way to those well bred female plants and lower the quality of the buds. If I'm not correct about the pollen being a problem there probably isn't going to be anybody volunteer the correct information, so do not take this as gospel. Hemp is a pretty good crop, as opposed to marijuana, it makes an excellent strong fiber that can be used for anything from rope to clothing. I also saw a reference to hemp seed oil being a good source of Omega 3's? It's too bad it is illegal as a fiber crop in most places. Carol, do you know if cattle will eat it? Michael, maybe you could teach your dog to give a different alert for low quality hemp than for the drug quality stuff.
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Shody Lytle wrote 01/09/2008 01:03 PM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #174098 - 01/09/2008 01:03 PM
Shody Lytle Webboard User Reg: 06-27-2007 Posts: 547 Loc: Orcutt, California Offline	Quote: Debbie Bruce I would speculate that if there was lots of ditch weed/Hemp present in an area that the people trying to grow high potency marjuana would have trouble with their crop. They don't want the buds pollinated. Ditch weed would send out lots of pollen which could find it's way to those well bred female plants and lower the quality of the buds. Gee Debbie, you seem to be pretty knowegable about this stuff.... LOL Shody http://www.pbase.com/shody
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Carol Boche wrote 01/09/2008 02:22 PM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #174120 - 01/09/2008 02:22 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Quote: Debbie Bruce Carol, do you know if cattle will eat it? Properly fed cattle will not eat it, but if they are starving or improperly fed they will eat anything that is out there except soap weeds...... Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Debbie Bruce wrote 01/09/2008 03:02 PM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Shody Lytle ] #174138 - 01/09/2008 03:02 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	Quote: Shody Lytle  Quote: Debbie Bruce I would speculate that if there was lots of ditch weed/Hemp present in an area that the people trying to grow high potency marijuana would have trouble with their crop. They don't want the buds pollinated. Ditch weed would send out lots of pollen which could find it's way to those well bred female plants and lower the quality of the buds. Gee Debbie, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable about this stuff.... LOL Lots of horticulture in HS and college as well as plenty of reading makes for a knowledgeable person.... I'm totally innocent, I swear.
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Charlie Snyder wrote 01/09/2008 03:21 PM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #174143 - 01/09/2008 03:21 PM
Charlie Snyder Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2001 Posts: 999 Loc: Offline	Back during the hippy days, I remember hearing of the story of how some farmer saw a bunch of LHHF's whacking away at hemp plants in the right of way next to one of his fields. He went out and asked what they were doing. Didn't get any real answers. The farmer grinned and said, "Boys, you really don't have to work that hard, I've some all dried, baled and ready to go!". The happy hippies loaded five bales in their VW Microbus and headed west. Best price that farmer got for his alfalfa hay all summer. It's probably an urban legend. It's one of those stories that is too good to have actually happened.
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Brad . Martin wrote 01/10/2008 08:16 AM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Charlie Snyder ] #174227 - 01/10/2008 08:16 AM
Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005 Posts: 587 Loc: Ontario, Canada Offline	Hi Michael, Is your dog a Narc dog or ED dog? If your dog is used for ED then all you really need to do is proof your training. If you have a Narc dog, then a "false alert" on a cannabis derivative is not really a false alert at all. The dog is indicating on a known odor so if you proof out hemp then you may wind up missing an actual find. Particularily if the odor you are trying to proof out has been cross contaminated with actual source odor (ie. marijiuana buds).
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Michael West wrote 01/10/2008 11:28 AM Re: Ditch Weed. [Re: Brad . Martin ] #174256 - 01/10/2008 11:28 AM
Michael West Webboard User Reg: 05-23-2007 Posts: 551 Loc: Washington, USA Offline	Quote: charlie snyder Ditch weed is sometimes slang for low-grade marijuana or cannibis. In the midwest, it's sometimes found growing wild in the roadside ditches. Hence, 'Ditch Weed'. Back during WWII, the supplies of hemp were cut off. Since rope was considered a vital material, the feds needed a domestic supply. So the government got farmers to grow the hemp plant. After the war, the supply of real hemp was once more available. The stuff that was planted went to seed. You find a lot of it in the Dakotas, Kansas and Nebraska. Ok so Ditch Weed is just that, Weed. Is hemp the same thing just a different name?  Quote: brad . martin Hi Michael, Is your dog a Narc dog or ED dog? If your dog is used for ED then all you really need to do is proof your training. If you have a Narc dog, then a "false alert" on a cannabis derivative is not really a false alert at all. The dog is indicating on a known odor so if you proof out hemp then you may wind up missing an actual find. Particularily if the odor you are trying to proof out has been cross contaminated with actual source odor (ie. marijiuana buds). Yes i have a Narc Dog, trust me i would be a lot more worried if i had a explosive dog . So everything is good to go really and basically it was marijuana. Well crap, thats going to make my job a bit harder considering if its mixed in with hay then im not going to have a clue if my dog is responding to that or to narcotics buried under the hay (which is what we where looking for to start with) Michael.West "Everything flows down leash"
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