Kori Bigge wrote 02/08/2008 03:32 PM Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? #179708 - 02/08/2008 03:32 PM
Kori Bigge Webboard User Reg: 10-08-2007 Posts: 611 Loc: Kansas Offline	I'm currently in a "friendly" disagreement w/someone on another board, re: beet pulp. I stated that I've read that it's a source of sugar (that dogs do not need), and she keeps insisting it's simply a source of fiber, and does not contain sugar. I quoted "Foods Pets Die For" by Ann Martin, and this poster is saying that this book, and every other source that says this, is mistaken. So, who is right? I have seen multiple sources that say beet pulp is high in sugar...I'm confused... P.S. I posted asking her to state her source of info, but haven't heard back yet... Edited by Kori Bigge (02/08/2008 03:33 PM) Edit reason: P.S. Added
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Shody Lytle wrote 02/08/2008 03:57 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Kori Bigge ] #179718 - 02/08/2008 03:57 PM
Shody Lytle Webboard User Reg: 06-27-2007 Posts: 547 Loc: Orcutt, California Offline	From what I can find, and I didn't search too long, "Beet pulp is the fibrous material that remains after most of the sugar is removed from sugar beets." Most being the key word here. So I would say yes, it does contain suger. Now if you continue to read the rest of the pages referenced below, it has less calories pound for pound than corn, wheat or oats, (all the info. I could find related to horses) so it isn't a lot of sugar, but still not something I would want to give my dog. http://www.equussource.com/articles/nutrition/102706_feedingbeetpulp.jsp http://www.horsequest.com/journal/health/beetp.htm Shody http://www.pbase.com/shody
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/09/2008 10:17 AM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Kori Bigge ] #179798 - 02/09/2008 10:17 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: kori bigge I'm currently in a "friendly" disagreement w/someone on another board, re: beet pulp. I stated that I've read that it's a source of sugar (that dogs do not need), and she keeps insisting it's simply a source of fiber, and does not contain sugar. I quoted "Foods Pets Die For" by Ann Martin, and this poster is saying that this book, and every other source that says this, is mistaken. So, who is right? I have seen multiple sources that say beet pulp is high in sugar...I'm confused... P.S. I posted asking her to state her source of info, but haven't heard back yet... Well, it's pretty much correct that it does not contain sugar; it's the material left over after the sugar is removed from sugar beets. Modern methods of taking the sugar are very thorough, since the sugar is the product the manufacturer wants. (As Shody says, I'd have to say *most* of the sugar is extracted.) So beet pulp is a by-product: cheap and available. It's a way to add fiber to highly-processed commercial foods. Unfortunately, most of the sources you'll find about the uses of this "beneficial" by-product are either directly from Iams or can be traced back to Iams (or Hills/SD) and always (of necessity) involve animals on commercial foods and not fresh foods. I'm curious, though, about sources that say it's *high* in sugar. Can you link me to an online source? I don't feed commercial foods, but if I did, then the digestible, simple starches (read sugar) in corn and other cereal grains would be an even bigger problem to me.
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Kori Bigge wrote 02/09/2008 11:45 AM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #179806 - 02/09/2008 11:45 AM
Kori Bigge Webboard User Reg: 10-08-2007 Posts: 611 Loc: Kansas Offline	Hi, Connie- I tried to go back and find the sites where I read this. I couln't find all of them, but here's a couple. http://www.blackdraft.com/nutrition.htm http://www.agweekly.com/articles/2007/05/13/commodities/dairy/dairy37.txt http://www.itchmo.com/book-review-pet-food-nation-1818 I'm not sure how reliable these specific sites are, but I've seen enough places that said beet pulp was high in sugar that it got me wondering. (I have also seen plenty that said it is not)...
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/09/2008 12:01 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Kori Bigge ] #179808 - 02/09/2008 12:01 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I went to that third one first and when I "searched" for "beet" got this return: QUOTE: She advises to look for meats that are human grade, natural preservatives, whole grains (no “hulls&rdquo, and avoid “beet pulp” which is an artificial stool hardener and high in sugar. ... Weiskopf also advises against raw food diets. She says that cooked grains and vegetables are an essential part of a pet’s diet. END I'm no defender of commercial ingredients, and certainly not manufacturing by-products, but I don't know if I'd invest a lot of time in that source. I'll do some reading later and let you know what I find.
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Kori Bigge wrote 02/09/2008 12:04 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #179809 - 02/09/2008 12:04 PM
Kori Bigge Webboard User Reg: 10-08-2007 Posts: 611 Loc: Kansas Offline	Cool - thanks, Connie. I've seen so much contradictory info on this ingredient, that I don't know who to believe. I noticed the "high in sugar" comment, but didn't catch the "cooked grains...essential part of a pet's diet" part. You're are right - that's a big blow to their credibility!
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JOE BAUER wrote 02/21/2008 01:53 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Kori Bigge ] #181866 - 02/21/2008 01:53 PM
JOE BAUER Webboard User Reg: 02-17-2008 Posts: 14 Loc: OHIO Offline	HI THIS IS MY FIRST POST.TO ADD,I ALSO READ THAT THIS PULP COULD ALSO PUT STRESS ON LIVER AND KIDNEYS
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Kelly wrote 02/21/2008 01:59 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: JOE BAUER ] #181867 - 02/21/2008 01:59 PM
Kelly Moderator Reg: 06-03-2005 Posts: 1495 Loc: Offline	I think sugar content depends on where the beet pulp comes from. The stuff fed to horses has been processed and the sugar taken out. I don't know where the stuff in dog food comes from... that alone would be reason enough to not feed it to my dog!
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Alex Corral wrote 02/21/2008 02:07 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: JOE BAUER ] #181868 - 02/21/2008 02:07 PM
Alex Corral Webboard User Reg: 02-23-2007 Posts: 1102 Loc: Denver, CO Offline	Hi, funny this thread was revived since I was just reading about this yesterday. I was helping my sister look for dog food and came accross a kibble that has beet pulp. After reading more about it, it doesn't seem as bad as it sounds. I'm sure there is still some sugar left in it, but I think it's used more for fiber and a stool firmer. My dog is on raw, but I gave my sis, the thumbs up on the kibble we looked at. Here's one of the sites I read: Link. I skimmed most of her website and I don't think she has anything to do with a certain dog food company. On one of her links, she has the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Assoc.
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JOE BAUER wrote 02/21/2008 02:23 PM Re: Isn't "beet pulp" a source of sugar? [Re: Alex Corral ] #181869 - 02/21/2008 02:23 PM
JOE BAUER Webboard User Reg: 02-17-2008 Posts: 14 Loc: OHIO Offline	IT SEEMS FROM MY RESEARCH THAT ITS JUST A FILLER.SOME WOULD ARGUE THAT ITS FOR FIBER.IM NOT QUALIFIED TO REALLY EVEN GIVE A GOOD OPINION BUT ITS IN EVEN THE CHEAPEST DOG FOOD
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