Mike Kramer Webboard User Reg: 08-20-2007
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my pup has made a great improvement in accepting his crate but not completely. He sometimes still has a fit about going in and being in, he calms down usually in about 15-20 mins. Is this normal and will he ever not cry ??????? ( he is 11 weeks old today)he also is still peeing in his crate???
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005
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Mike,
How often are you taking him out? Is he going in his crate during the day, at night, or whenever?
Ember is 19 wks and still whines a bit in her crate, but it is starting to be just around meal times and when she has to go out. I change meal times around by a half hour for her and she is getting better about not anticipating being fed.
The only time I get her out when she is whining/barking is when she is doing the "mmmooommmm I gotta go" whine/bark.
Sometimes she will do it if she hears me walking around. I just wait for her to quiet and then I get her out and do something with her or I reward her for being quiet with something to chew on or a treat with a "good quiet".
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Julie Wilson Webboard User Reg: 07-12-2007
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The crate is supposed to be big enough to stand,turn and lay down - more than that and he'll potty on one side and lay on the other. And he needs frequent opportunities to potty too!
My mom had me buy a Kong toy, stuff it, and ONLY present it when it was time to crate.
She is 2 and all I have to do is pick up the Kong and she RACES to her crate and waits for me to bring her the goodies. She said it alleviated boredom and created a positive association with the crate - it worked well!
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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... ( he is 11 weeks old today)he also is still peeing in his crate???
If you have truly taught that outdoor potty is good (rewards, praise), and the puppy is peeing in the crate, then (basically) the opportunities to go outside are not sufficient.
I know that sounds kind of harsh, but it's not.
If he is outside when he has to go, then the habit of going outside will be the habit that's reinforced. If he has to go and he is inside, then the habit of going inside will be reinforced.
So when I am first training the dog who is new to outdoor potty, I take the dog out all the time.... every hour, maybe .... so that many outdoor potties happen and are rewarded and praised. I also think that tethering can *really* speed up the process.
In other words, I set the dog up for success and pretty much remove the necessity for mistakes.
This is a short process if that kind of consistency is maintained. The less consistency and good repetition, the longer the process.
Mike Kramer Webboard User Reg: 08-20-2007
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he will wine when ever he goes in. When we are home ho goes out about every 1&1/2-2 hrs. we do reward and praise. When we aren't home he goes out anywhere between 2&1/2-3&1/2hrs. At night usually about every 3 hrs. Sometimes the crate is wet and other times its not. He will calm down after a while in his crate but not for long if we are up and moving around( we have ignored him when he is in there
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he will wine when ever he goes in. When we are home ho goes out about every 1&1/2-2 hrs. we do reward and praise. When we aren't home he goes out anywhere between 2&1/2-3&1/2hrs. At night usually about every 3 hrs. Sometimes the crate is wet and other times its not. He will calm down after a while in his crate but not for long if we are up and moving around( we have ignored him when he is in there
These are two separate issues.
On the potty:
I would get a little log going and jot down when the crate is wet. You will soon know when he needs an extra trip outside.
On the whining:
I think that many owners whose dogs continue to whine in the crate are somehow rewarding it. They let the whining dog out one time out of 20, or they talk to the dog when he whines.... something that tells the dog that whining might pay off, because "it did that other time" .....
Do you look for the behavior you want so you can mark and reward it?
And do you stand like a statue at the crate waiting for calm silence so you can mark and open the crate?
These are "snapshot" teaching aids that tell the dog what *does* get rewards.
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