most of the dogs i have owned/trained have been older dogs i have trained for someone else, in 2000 i bought a rottie pup, that for me was that (once in a life time dog) and i never had any serious problems raising it. it died at ten months of age from a bizzarre heart problem they said was undetectable. so a week ago i finally went out and bought my new rottie, and although i like him very much, he is so different from my last that im constantly wondering if somthing is wrong w/either him or me. still trying to get used to him, just when it seems i'm figuring things out, he throws me a curve. one problem im having is that at night in his crate, he usually whines for a bit, then quits and sleeps. then last night, he seemed to do the same thing until i was good and asleep then started whining and yelping like someone was in there beating him. never coming across this before i waited for him to take a lengthy pause, and then took him outside he went, then i put him back in his crate and he whined/howled almost all night w/out stopping. any suggestions?

Did you get this dog from the same kennel? I assume it has solid genetic working lines. Unlike many people here, I'm not a trainer. It may be weak nerves, and if it's from the same kennel you got the first dog from then you may want to look at the source of where they are coming from.

As far as the medical condition to your first dog, I'm sure unfortuate things will always happen. This seems odd. I'm sure the other people here will know what to do.

From what I've learn since I've studied into this if you get into a deal where you aren't paying at least $1,000 dollars and have solid working title lines, return policies, etc, (The usual standards of reputable kennels) Then maybe this is something else. I only mention this because I don't know if you did or not. Write back and say in your next post. If that was done then someone else will have to tell you. I couldn't say.

How old is the pup? I had a simliar problem it was solved when I threw in one of my worn t-shirts or sweat shirts.It made a big difference.

Milt

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this pup was from a different breeder than the last. that night was the only night he has done this since i brought him home, i dont think he has weak nerves because he's not gunshy/peopleshy/or skiddish in any way ive seen. i am going to pay attention tonight and see if it happens again. hopefully it wont ill let you know.

What do you have in the crate with her?

My rottie pup is just 9 weeks old. I don't crate, she has a pen. I only put her in it for short periods of time. I did let her howl, and I'll tell you she howled. What I did was make a bed and put one of my pillows (I needed a new one anyway) because it has my sent on it. And alot of toys. She now considers the bed I made a real safe heaven, she even goes in there, to her bed, and plays in the bed, even when she's not penned up.
Crating must have come out resently. I never heard of it when I was trainning, yes I'm real old LOL. Back then I told customers to put there puppies in a small box beside there bed, with the sides high enough so they couldn't get out.

While the pup is in the crate, reassure him/her and never excite, when you release. Give toys to play with, and give something with your sent. And here a real old one, rap up a wind up alarm clock in a old towel, sometimes the ticking sound southes them.
This old dog needs to learn new tricks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Also I forgot to mention that I think rotties are very owner orintated, they love to be with you all the time. Mine is not content laying on the floor while I'm on the computer. She's sleeping in my lap. I think that's why putting her in her pen is a real punishment at times, because she really wants to be with me. Time out in the pen works for me.

SessieLouBob

rottiedogz,

Its late and I'm turning in for the night but when milt gives an order, I'm there!LOL

I'll try to keep this short. Instead of going into tremendous detail on why the pup does this, I'll give you a suggestion on what you can do to solve the problem and maybe get a good nights sleep.

Try putting the crate near your bed so that the pup can see you. Now before someone goes nuts saying "wait a minute I thought the bedroom was off limits", keep in mind we are talking about a small puppy here. Imagine what the pup feels like being seperated from her littermates. If she can see you and sense that you are there she may settle down. Now, do this for a few nights. After a few nights go by, start moving the crate further away from the bed, little by little, until after a couple of weeks you can move it out of the room. It may not even take that long. I have done this many times with a new puppy and it works well. The pup is just getting used to a new environment. Some pups adjust quicker than others. Remember....unless you think she needs to go out, do not give in and take her out of the crate. It's like picking up a baby every time you hear them cry. Bad Idea. She will feel secure knowing that you are there, and shortly you will be able to move the crate out of the room. Just do it gradually.

I've done this with all my pups, it works. They'll still fuss for a bit at first, but once they know you're not leaving, they quiet down and sleep. Although gradually moving them out of the bedroom is sometimes harder for the human than the pup... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

well that night was the only night he did that, and hopefully the last. but now i have a new problem. I have had him for over a week now, and he has not offered to relieve himself in the crate or in the house(which is great), but all of the sudden, twice in the same day today he went in his crate. i dont understand why he could be doing this. he wasnt in there to long, and i know the crate is not too big, and he came from an exceptionally clean kennel. so if anyone has any thoughts on this, they'll be greatly appriciated.

Rottie,
He did it because he's a puppy and sometimes that's what they do.

House breaking is real simple if you have a plan and stick to it.

Let the dog out often enough to relieve himself.

Regular food & water times for now.

Make sure that you see that he went & praise and reward for it.

Supervised time with you in the house.

Confined to a small enough crate when you can't watch him.

When he has an accident - clean it up. Roll up a newspaper and whack yourself over the head and promise to do a better job next time.

Don't sweat the small stuff - just have a plan and stick to it - it'll work out.
Nick

Originally posted by rottiedogz:
i dont understand why he could be doing this. he wasnt in there to long, and i know the crate is not too big, and he came from an exceptionally clean kennel. so if anyone has any thoughts on this, they'll be greatly appriciated.