Cindy Easton Rhodes wrote 02/27/2008 10:38 AM California Vet Investigation~video #182820 - 02/27/2008 10:38 AM
Cindy Easton Rhodes Moderator Reg: 07-14-2001 Posts: 2069 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	This link was posted on a homeopathy list I subscribe to. I think everyone who ever goes to a vet with their animals needs to watch this and be aware. Good work Channel 4! http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=222521 Cindy cindyr@leerburg.com
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Debbie Bruce wrote 02/27/2008 01:24 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Cindy Easton Rhodes ] #182860 - 02/27/2008 01:24 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	Can someone please give me an overview. A six minute video onn mmyyy diiiaal-uuup connnecctiooon taaakes fooreeevveer, aboouut twooo hoouurs. No joke. I tried to get it but it's just in pieces and the last part won't down load.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/27/2008 01:57 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #182870 - 02/27/2008 01:57 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	They enlisted an experienced vet to thoroughly examine a couple of dogs with minor things to deal with, and then when undercover folks took the dogs to various vets in the area, the vets prescribed batteries of tests and procedures that cost a ton of money.
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Debbie Bruce wrote 02/27/2008 04:05 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #182906 - 02/27/2008 04:05 PM
Debbie Bruce Webboard User Reg: 08-23-2007 Posts: 1196 Loc: Centralia, Missouri Offline	Thank you, :smile:
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Keith Jablonowski wrote 02/27/2008 04:10 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Debbie Bruce ] #182909 - 02/27/2008 04:10 PM
Keith Jablonowski Webboard User Reg: 12-07-2006 Posts: 127 Loc: Lombard, IL Offline	Thanks Cindy, that's why this site is so great. If you go into a situation with some understanding of what is going on you have a much better chance of not getting taken advantage of. It sounds exactly like the car repair stories 60 Minutes did a few years ago where they put a hidden camera under the car. They caught well over 50% of the shops they went to not even performing the work they were charging for. Just poked around underneath for a few minutes then came out with a bill for $500. Keith Jablonowski
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Mike Armstrong wrote 02/27/2008 08:07 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Keith Jablonowski ] #182957 - 02/27/2008 08:07 PM
Mike Armstrong Webboard User Reg: 08-06-2005 Posts: 615 Loc: San Diego, CA Offline	Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -Mark Twain
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Will Rambeau wrote 02/27/2008 08:40 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Mike Armstrong ] #182959 - 02/27/2008 08:40 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Quote: mike armstrong While they apparently did a good job of nailing some vets, I think this is the way society in general is going - MDs, auto repair, electronics, computers, you name it. Nobody seems to really know anything anymore, but they all want to do a lot of tests to CYA. Mike Mike, if you're going to use the medical profession as an example, let me point you to the number one reason so many tests are done : the legal profession. Doctors are held to an incredibly high standard, and if they miss any obscure disease due to not having run virtual boat loads of testing, rest assured, they'll be sued. If there's a bad outcome, even if it's *no fault* of the doctor, attorneys often convince well-meaning but stupid juries that the patient "deserves" some compensation, and the "doctor has insurance and nobody will be hurt" by giving the poor patient some cash. Needless to say, the insurance companies will raise their malpractice insurance rates and bingo, we have today's medical malpractice nightmare. Hence, doctors practice "defensive" medicine, and it hurts the consumers. Thank a lawyer for this state of affairs. Everyone loses....except the lawyers. And oddly, no one blames them. The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Natalya Zahn wrote 02/27/2008 08:41 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Mike Armstrong ] #182960 - 02/27/2008 08:41 PM
Natalya Zahn Webboard User Reg: 12-22-2006 Posts: 1824 Loc: Cambridge, MA Offline	Quote: mike armstrong Just another benefit of raw feeding - your vet will forget who you and your dog are. And you can factor the savings from those visits into the cost of raw food if you think it costs more. Awesome. The benefits of this raw feeding thing just keep getting better and better... And Will, I think you're very, VERY correct, as the situation applies to people, though I'm not sure the veterinary business is in quite the same state of utter disrepair... from what I've experienced (Mike, I'm sure most of us have at least one very similar story as yours...), and from the feeling I gleaned from this "expose", a lot of vet practices really are just taking advantage of the opportunity to make a few hundred extra left and right - my vet charged me over $400 for a run of the mill neuter! I don't personally know anyone who has sued a vet, nor have a I heard about any cases either... but at the end of the day, it's all back to the dollars again, and not the actual health of the animals, or the respect of their owners. ~Natalya
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Sandy Moore wrote 02/27/2008 09:18 PM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Cindy Easton Rhodes ] #182963 - 02/27/2008 09:18 PM
Sandy Moore Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2006 Posts: 2665 Loc: AZ Offline	Quote: Cindy Easton Rhodes This link was posted on a homeopathy list I subscribe to. I think everyone who ever goes to a vet with their animals needs to watch this and be aware. Good work Channel 4! http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=222521 Wow....forewarned is forearmed.
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Mike Armstrong wrote 02/28/2008 12:01 AM Re: California Vet Investigation~video [Re: Will Rambeau ] #182977 - 02/28/2008 12:01 AM
Mike Armstrong Webboard User Reg: 08-06-2005 Posts: 615 Loc: San Diego, CA Offline	Quote: Will Rambeau . . . let me point you to the number one reason so many tests are done : the legal profession. I totally agree. Everybody has gone into CYA mode just to survive. But don't worry, a national health care system will take care of that. You'll die of your ailment before you ever get to see the doctor. Sorry, heading toward an off-topic rant, not training related. Mike Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -Mark Twain
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