Sure...
Why would you...IMO just stupid..If the dog needs it to work, the dog should not be working. I have heard of people using it to teach a out, but I don't like that idea either. Why would you want your dog to associate being flanked and pain w/ a handler? It causes more problems than it's worth IMO
We're getting into an area that I am no where near an expert on, but since I initially brought this term up in another post, I guess I'll bite again. The point I made in the other post was that it was the decoy, NOT THE HANDLER, that did the flanking. It was used to put the dog in a defensive drive for evaluation when no other methods worked. He has mostly prey drive, and little defense. I don't know how this bodes for a PSD evaluation, we're only interested in PP and sport.
I agree with you Josh, there is no point in forcing a dog to work by means of pain, if the dog otherwise doesn't want to work. But what I'm talking about here is evaluating the dog for protection work, which includes evaluating his prey and defense drives in order to know what you've got to work with. If the dog rarely shows a defensive drive, it's a method to draw it out, or determine if the drive is even there. It is not used as a regular training tool.
Since most PP and sport work is based on prey, I don't see why the dog shouldn't be worked. I don't want a defensive ego-maniac as a PPD, anyway. The risks are too great. JMO
BTW, I cleared some cobwebs and pulled out the book Manstopper, by Joel McMains. It does talk about using the flank procedure while training the out. And while I'm sure it can be effective for a tough dog who won't out, which are the only circumstances in which it is used, I don't think it would be my method of choice. It seems to me that if all else fails, an e-collar would work much better, and safer. Once again, JMO!
I don't doubt that it is still used quite often, I just brought it up to get both sides of this whole flank issue covered. I guess I opened a can of worms. Thanks VanCamp! :rolleyes:
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