 Ground work questions-not so many this time lol
#184649 - 03/08/2008 08:56 AM |
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Hi, i started bruce on some ground work yesterday, following the iuntructions on this web site to reestablish my leadership with him and hopefully cureing some of his aggression towards strangers and respect me a little more.
I just wanted to no, is marking and scratching around the garden and in public places acceptable.
And it says as well you eventually put them on a long line or remote collar? Are these a must? and how long do you have to keep the leads/lines on for? or is it an on going thing?
Example; 4 monthes down the line, bruno sees me as pack leader, doesnt mark on longline, practiseing the nilif every day, and isnt aggressive towards strangers.
Is walking him to the back door/kennel a must, and playing on a line even then?
I do have a vibration collar but what reason would i have to use it?
Thanks. The site was informative, i just want to make sure i fully understand it, before i do anything further
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[Re: Sarah Snape ]
#184656 - 03/08/2008 09:28 AM |
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IMO, taking the dog out on lead even to pee (yes, even if he is potty trained) sends a clear message. Perhaps even *more* clear, as it is obvious to him you are now controlling something he has been so accustom to doing by himself.
The lead is essential when establishing leadership, as it is your means of control with the dog. The lead will drop as a loose line (or get a light duty cotton line) as a drag line as the dog shows improved behavior with you. (ie: calm in house)
Also, digging and scratching around, peeing/marking all over is not acceptable. By allowing your dog to pee around on your walks, he is essentially "claiming territory". He can pee where you designate before your walk in these weeks of establishing structure.
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#184664 - 03/08/2008 10:04 AM |
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If we're on a serious walk I keep the leash short and keep him beside me. No marking. For off-leash, casual walks I don't care if he marks or not. My dog has, however, earned this freedom by going through the groundwork that Bruce is going through now.
Respecting you and aggression towards strangers are 2 different things, in my mind. You may earn the former but you may never completely resolve the latter to where you can be 100% certain he wouldn't show aggression under a certain set of circumstances. Certainly, if he sees you as the pack leader you up the odds that he will defer to you and not make decisions, possibly bad ones, on his own.
Bruce may graduate to not having a line on him in the house but if he's a dog that has shown aggression towards people he should always have a lead on when other people are around, IMO.
I hope someone will correct me if that's wrong. 
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#184668 - 03/08/2008 10:20 AM |
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He is fighting a bit already, marking or trying to anyway, and ignoring some commands
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#184690 - 03/08/2008 11:03 AM |
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If he's "marking" in your backyard, that is in my opinion NOT something to be corrected because a male dog will lift his leg to pee. So if you correct him for that, you're correcting him for merely peeing, and that's not right and he'll rebel against that, as well he should.
Peeing on walks (when you start taking him on walks) is up to you, when he pees and where he pees. But the backyard is fair game for him. If your yard is large enough then you can designate a potty area by having him on leash and taking him to the area. But I believe you mentioned your yard is small (?) in which case that would be hard to do unless you had a sandbox or something similar.
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#184694 - 03/08/2008 11:20 AM |
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Our yard is rather big? and marking i mean scratching.
I really must be more clear sorry lol
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#184697 - 03/08/2008 11:29 AM |
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I think that marking in the back yard is ok. sometimes the peeing and marking are rolled into one.
Back yard; ok
everywhere else; he can hold it until you say "ok" and let him out a little one the leash (they usually immediatly pee somewhere when you let the leash out)
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#184844 - 03/09/2008 10:40 AM |
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Peeing is ok, its just scratching, marking that way i dont like
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#184859 - 03/09/2008 12:08 PM |
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Sarah, just to clarify, the term 'marking' as it pertains to dogs is when they mark their territory with a small amount of urine. Like when your dog lifts his leg on a tree and pees a small amount, that is called 'marking'...
I'm not sure what you mean by 'scratching'. Is the dog digging?
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#184873 - 03/09/2008 12:37 PM |
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No, scratching the grass with his back legs making grass fly everywhere. straight after peeing
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