Pup OB ?
#189441 - 04/09/2008 02:20 PM |
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My pup is 4 1/2 months old and I got him for PPD but I LOVE the great OB work of a Schutzhund dog.
So being that my dog needs to be obedient for PPD, but that is not our #1 point in our training right now. So how and at what age is it ok to crack-down on OB with a PPD?
I don't need lots of hi-teck OB work but I would love a great Fuss. I want to teach him that but i'm just not sure if now is an ok time?
He walks really well on a 6 foot leash. He dose not stay in a fuss but when he get's to the end he dose not pull but he stays at the end. Should I let him do this or should I make him fuss?
or is this one of those things I should let go untill he's older?
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He is still jumping up so bad. 1 week ago he jumped up and licked my face but one of his teeth got stuck on my nose and ripped it. No stiches thankful, but almost. I'm so sick of this.
Can some one PLEASE tell me if this is a puppy thing or if I can and should stop this. Some peaple tell my that sense he's going to do PPD that I should let is go so later in training he knows it's ok. But I've also herd that it's a pack thing and that him doing that means he thinks he's leader. And thats so not OK.
Please, any help!!
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Re: Pup OB ?
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#189443 - 04/09/2008 02:22 PM |
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If this is too much please let me know and I can making a 2nd post for the jumping up.
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Guest1 wrote 04/09/2008 02:31 PM
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Do you have the book Purely Positive, by Sheila Booth?
That'll probably give you a good answer to the bigger question here. It's not about "cracking down" at any given point, but instead weaving positive reinforcement (amongst other non-conflict reinforcers) into the fabric of your day-to-day interactions.
Performance heeling isn't the same kinda heeling as the 30 minute walk kinda "heeling", but there can be completely fun and positive ways to achieve both (particulary performance heeling).
Likewise, obedience under the distraction of adversarial bitework isn't quite the same as the other two.
All three are undertaken seperately with different expectations.
As you see, obedience can be broken down into rather proprietary contexts.
As a little guy, you could start tiny bouts performance-type training with positive reinforcment, or you could set general trends and precedents; i.e. informal games like hide and seek, where it's generally fun and rewarding to be around you etc.
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Thanks Steve. That helps.
but what should I do about the jumping?
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Guest1 wrote 04/09/2008 02:41 PM
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Damned if I know. I actually encourage it.
Ok, that's a half-truth. When I'm not in the mood for paws-to-chest, I taught him to go through my legs to get chest rubs. As he's coming, I just turn around and say "through". I probably reinforced that with food for a while too. I can't remember.
Edit: do you have a bear cub hybrid or something? Cute doesn't begin to describe that face.
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Damned if I know. I actually encourage it.
Steven!
I think, to teach No jump, it's helpful to reward for "four on the floor". After this is coming along and you are seeing results, teach a command to jump up on you. Then it can all come together in the dog's mind.
Black and white. Worked with my dog anyway.
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Steve. Thanks again for the help with the dog. I DO need to use more food with this! Also, to day I did some work with him out side on a line that was tied up like Ed did in his OB video. He learns that when he jumps you stay just out of reach but as soon as he sits he gets some love. That workeds great untill he's off the line. But I'm just going to keep up the work and use more food and we will see how that go's. If you think of antthing more that could be of any help please let me know. Thanks so much.
Oh, about my pup, thanks for what you said. I too love his puffy little face. He's just GSD, but I'm not sure how that white got there
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Nicely thought out answer Steve.
Ahem, Christi are you sure about the breeding of this dog?
For my part I've never seen or heard of white as a mixing color on GSD's.
Cute dog though.
If I'm not learning, I'm not paying attention.
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#189586 - 04/10/2008 08:07 AM |
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Randy,about his breeding. I think ![:eek: smiley for :eek:](/cbparser/img/smileys/eek.gif) I'm sure about it.
The breeder I got him from got both his mother and mather from a GSD Shelter. The owener befor hand said he let them go to the shaelter cause he had a death in the family and now he was ready to take the dogs for him self. Both had papers from something(I need to find, I don't remember what thay were from. A GSD german reg. of some sort).
I was told that breeding was for PPD but I'm not so sure. When I started with my pup he had a really low drive, Thanks to "Bilding Drive and Focus" he's now doing great. But I'm starting to think that he may have been breed for tracking. Now I do not know ANYTHING about tracking, but we will be walking and he will get somthing in the air and franticly go after it untill I drag him off it. This happens many times every walk.
But anyway... The shelter said thay were GSD. There papers said they were GSD. But true, I did not know them to have white, unles of coure all white.
Any thoughts or ideas that people have I would love to here them.
Thanks, Christi
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