Ashley Hiebing wrote 04/10/2008 08:38 AM How strange. #189595 - 04/10/2008 08:38 AM
Ashley Hiebing Webboard User Reg: 07-07-2007 Posts: 143 Loc: Madison, Wisconsin Offline	Last night my mom was outside with the dog taking the trash to the curb. He wasn't on leash (yes, I put him on a lead whenever I'm out with him but my parents don't). I was in the house, by the way. Some guy was walking his little dog across the street. Our dog bolted across the street, barking, snarling, hackles up. Which is weird because normally he doesn't care about other dogs at all. He doesn't try to initiate play with them, he's not aggressive toward them. Just totally ignores them. Needless to say, the guy walking the little dog was pissed. My mom said this happened to this guy before. I'm curious as to what caused this. Was this a territorial thing? Dogs have walked past our house before and he didn't care, but then again he was on his tie-out. And yes, before you ask, I did tell mom that she can't let him outside to run around free. =P If this happens again, say while we're walking, what is the correct response?
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Norman Epstein wrote 04/10/2008 08:57 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Ashley Hiebing ] #189598 - 04/10/2008 08:57 AM
Norman Epstein Webboard User Reg: 02-06-2008 Posts: 283 Loc: Mandeville Louisiana Offline	Ashley what was your response this time.
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Betty Waldron wrote 04/10/2008 10:05 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Norman Epstein ] #189618 - 04/10/2008 10:05 AM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	You are lucky your dog did not get hit by a car, or that the man walking his dog did not mace or kick your dog. I would of! Between this incident and you using a tie out I think at least your guestion of why rescues require fences (prior thread) has been answered. Your dog must me under control. Leash, voice or ecollar. Very seldom is a tie out a good idea. I would worry less about why this happened and concentrate more on making sure it does not happen in the future. Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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Betty Waldron wrote 04/10/2008 10:11 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Betty Waldron ] #189623 - 04/10/2008 10:11 AM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	Ashley I've gone back and read a few of your posts and see that you are just about 18 now and living with your parents. I know that that can make things a little more difficult when dealing with dog issues. Have you taken your pooch to a basic ob class? Group lessons are normally pretty reasonable, you get a set of eyes actually observing the behavior, a better behaved dog, and a happier owner. I think I have basic foundation work down pretty good with my dogs but I still try and get in a basic class with them. The exposure to people and dogs in a controlled enviroment is priceless! Just a thought. Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/10/2008 10:37 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Betty Waldron ] #189637 - 04/10/2008 10:37 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31573 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Betty Waldron You are lucky your dog did not get hit by a car, or that the man walking his dog did not mace or kick your dog. ..... I would worry less about why this happened and concentrate more on making sure it does not happen in the future. Me too. I really hope that you can get it across to your mother that she was 100% at fault here and that anything bad that happened (and it does, all the time, from death by car to an attack on the other dog to a bite on the other human trying to interfere in an attack) would have been her fault.
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Ashley Hiebing wrote 04/10/2008 11:02 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #189650 - 04/10/2008 11:02 AM
Ashley Hiebing Webboard User Reg: 07-07-2007 Posts: 143 Loc: Madison, Wisconsin Offline	I'm glad he's okay and there were no cars coming. If I was that guy I would've given my dog a boot to the face. Norman: There's no response I could've given because I was inside. My mom caught him and brought him back inside, which is when she told me what happened and I told her he has to be under control because his recall still sucks (I'm working on it). Betty: I don't tend to use the tie-out (it's a 20 ft cable that's kept wrapped around a post that's connected to the house; kind of hard to explain), if I do he's never out there for more than 5 minutes. Usually I hook the leash to him and we do a walk around the house for bathroom breaks. I'd like to to OB class with him but I can't afford it right now. Connie: Yeah, I told her exactly that. She didn't take it very well =( Our last dog almost got ran over by a UPS truck for the exact same reason. I'll try to make sure this won't happen again but I can't make any guarantees since I'm not home all the time to babysit my parents =P
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Betty Waldron wrote 04/10/2008 11:48 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Ashley Hiebing ] #189662 - 04/10/2008 11:48 AM
Betty Waldron Webboard User Reg: 07-11-2002 Posts: 2679 Loc: North Florida (Live Oak area) Offline	Maybe you can show your parents this thread? Is this your dog, can you crate him when you are not home? I don't want to kick a dead horse here but rather that then a dead dog. It is critical that the dog is not off leash until you have control. Betty (Waldron) Mathena http://www.littlerivercanine.com
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Ashley Hiebing wrote 04/10/2008 11:59 AM Re: How strange. [Re: Betty Waldron ] #189665 - 04/10/2008 11:59 AM
Ashley Hiebing Webboard User Reg: 07-07-2007 Posts: 143 Loc: Madison, Wisconsin Offline	I can show them the thread, but I doubt it will do anything, honestly. They might remember to keep him on lead for a little while, but I'll bet the farm they'll forget in about a week. I can explain until I'm blue in the face but they just don't get that even though he can recall in the house it's not the same when he's charging another dog. He's not considered my dog. I don't have a whole lot of say in how he's controlled. If I put him in the crate when I'm not home they'll let him out because crates are "cruel." I just can't win.
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Carol Boche wrote 04/10/2008 12:07 PM Re: How strange. [Re: Ashley Hiebing ] #189668 - 04/10/2008 12:07 PM
Carol Boche Webboard User Reg: 10-30-2005 Posts: 4531 Loc: South Dakota, USA Offline	Ashley, I feel for you....my parents can be the SAME way. Until The Tale of the Lioness is told, the Story will Always Glorfy the Hunter
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Sarah Morris wrote 04/10/2008 12:13 PM Re: How strange. [Re: Carol Boche ] #189669 - 04/10/2008 12:13 PM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	I feel for you, too. Maybe you and your dog will get lucky and that guy will call animal control or the cops. Perhaps a visit and lecture from law enforcement will get through to your parents. Maybe make the call yourself....?? True
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