My 8.5 mo schipperke (8lbs) has diarrhea with blood. Pudding consistency.

It started about 3 am on Sunday morning. No blood until later in the day. Late Sun evening I fed her bland cooked chicken with mushy rice and a little plain yogurt mixed in. Also, fed her baited water. She ate well. Later I fed her some more of the same mixture.

She is much better today, but still has pudding stools and is now rubbing her butt on the floor.

Tonight, she is much, much better and has eaten the chicken/rice mixture several (small) meals and is now even hungrier.

When this started is was Sunday and no vet available. Today she was much better so I didn't take her.

Now, I am trying to figure out if a vet is warranted or if it was something she ate as I don't ever want to go thru this again.

She is fed raw and in the preceeding week her diet consisted of Cornish hen, sardines, pork chop and high value treats consisting of left over rare steak and a small bit of ham.

However, on Saturday, about noon, she was able to get into some pancakes that my grandson had left out on a table. By the time I got to her, she had devoured at least one (McDonald's) and possibly the biggest part of another, also some syrup.

Do you think that the grain/flour from the pancakes could have caused this? She has been grain free for almost two months.

Define diarrhea with blood.

It started out looking like pudding and this was in the middle of the night (night before last) and ended with cranberry juice looking poop that was blood.

This continued most of yesterday and tapered off yesterday evening but never completely stopped.

Today, more like pudding but still had the cranberry juice looking blood. And now tonight, mostly pudding and getting a little thicker

It started out looking like pudding and this was in the middle of the night (night before last) and ended with cranberry juice looking poop that was blood.

This continued most of yesterday and tapered off yesterday evening but never completely stopped.

Today, more like pudding but still had the cranberry juice looking blood. And now tonight, mostly pudding and getting a little thicker

Blood in the stool would be a good reason to see a vet.There may be a parasite or worms.

Thanks, Cheryl.

She is feeling much better now and I will continue to watch her tomorrow to see if blood is in the stool again. Had a vet been available yesterday, I would have rushed right in because it was a scary thing to see.

The best I could come up with was a former vet tech. He looked at her poop, too, and said that it looked like what they always called garbage gut and suggested imodium. I didn't have any at the time and today her stool is better and now tonight there is no blood in it and she is 90% of her normal energy.

I did a google search and came up with pictures of different diarrhea and hers looked like either parasites or the colitis that comes from anxiety. (I was also gone for about 4 hours while she was crated and I am not usually away from her that long.)

A google search also turned up that is could be a change in food.

If she is back to normal tomorrow, I will dread a vet visit due to her being raw fed, among other things.

I have a gut feeling that is was the pancakes but, gut reactions aren't always accurate.

Yeah, you should probably see a vet.

My jack russell has done this twice before.

Your vet will more than likely blame your dogs diet. Although it *could* be diet related, I highly doubt it. Kibble fed dogs do this all the time and diet rarely gets blamed.

In my dogs case, I have NO idea what triggered it. Thought I had it figured out 'til it happened again with no contact with what I thought triggered it before.

DO NOT let your vet simply blame diet. You need to make sure that this is an acute case and not an unknown, chronic problem.

What is she acting like now?

Appetite? Drinking?

Go ahead and withhold food 'til you see a vet. The bleeding is probably an inflamed digestive tract that could use a break.

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I will dread a vet visit due to her being raw fed, among other things.

My cousins kibble fed dog had a bout of bloody diarrhea, too. His grain-based food was never blamed. The ER said this was one of their most common emergencies.

That led me to call around to ER vets in my yellow pages. Bloody diarrhea was one of the most common emergencies at all of them. (I've talked to 4 including the one I went to and the one my cousin went to.)

Everyone here knows as well as I do that probably VERY few if any of their bloody diarrhea cases were raw fed. There are so many more kibble fed dogs than raw fed dogs.

If your vet starts to pull that one on you, simply ask if this is the only case of this he has ever seen. If not, were all the other cases raw fed? Doubt it.

Make him give your dog a thorough examination. If he won't and uses raw diet as the scape goat.....leave. Be sure to tell the next vet why you left the first. If they are the same way, go to the next. You and your dog deserve fair treatment and vet care.

Thanks, Michael. It was sudden onset. Middle of the night. The night of the day she ate the pancakes (I know I keep coming back to the pancakes). That's why I think it was food related.

And, it was severe at the time.

By now, she is almost normal, probably normal if it was day time because she is playful, hungry, chewing on a knuckle bone and acts like NOTHING is wrong, now.

I am not adverse to the vet. But if it is food related and she is OK now, I really don't want to have to explain the raw food thing, yet.

My vet is the most 'relaxed' in town, but still is vax, kibble oriented.

Also, she hasn't had her rabies shot yet and I don't want to give it to her when she is stressed.

I started raw, then she went into heat, then she got some fleas and ticks on her a couple of weeks ago, so I put Frontline on her last week and now this diarrhea. So it seems like something keeps coming up that prevents me from getting the rabies shot. I'm not really worried about that because it is most unlikely that she will get bit by anything. But still I will get her one.

I know you feed raw, too. Do you think it could be the flour from the pancakes? It was a lot for her and she hasn't had any grain since we started raw. Only some apple sometimes, or a little applesause mixed with something she doesn't like and the yogurt.

Except for the pancakes on Saturday, she was fasted for more than 24 hours. Then I gave her the chicken/rice mix.

This is second day on that and she acts like she is starving right now.

She is also drinking plain water well and playful.

Thanks for any ideas.

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Also, she hasn't had her rabies shot yet and I don't want to give it to her when she is stressed.

Your 100% correct on that. I had a similar dilemma and Connie assured me that any vet worth their weight would skip any vax 'til the dog was 100%. Believe thats even on the vax bottle.

 Quote: nora ferrell

I know you feed raw, too. Do you think it could be the flour from the pancakes?

Oh, I don't know. The extent of my health knowledge is "Go to the vet." My experience with it, and from research I've done into HGE is that a cause is hard to find.

I even had it isolated to a certain event that I thought caused my dog's. Until it happened again without my "trigger". He's since been in contact with the "trigger" numerous times only to have zilch happen.