 walking in front on leash
#190601 - 04/15/2008 04:39 PM |
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I recently got the Basic Dog Obedience dvd and I'm quite pleased with it. My question is with walking on leash. Is the dog walking in front of you not a dominance issue? I've always thought that it is best to have the dog walk next to, or behind you.
So, which is it, pack leader issue or not?
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Re: walking in front on leash
[Re: Peter Meaden ]
#190614 - 04/15/2008 05:55 PM |
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I've had the same question. Can't wait to hear everyone's thoughts.
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#190617 - 04/15/2008 06:00 PM |
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this is just me, and i think we have discussed it on here before, if your dog doesn't already have dominance issues, and you allow the dog to walk in front, that is ok.
As long as your dog isn't pulling, and will willingly walk beside and/or behind you when you tell him to.
if you look at my sig pic, i walk 4 in a line mostly beside, but slightly in front too. If at any point, i make them all walk even behing me(lke if there is another dog, or i am walking through some place narrow) they do it without a fuss.
it's like a loose heel.
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#190705 - 04/16/2008 07:46 AM |
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I fully agree with Mallory Kwiatkowski.
However, dogs themselves often react more aggressively to dogs that are out front of their owners and in a way "taking their owners for a walk", even if not pulling extremely.
The dogs that pass our garden (and there are many) that are willingly "under control" don't cause much problem. However, the "heavy breathers" walking out front pose a "threat". They seem to send out the message "I'll get you one day, mate".
One woman walks her mixes, dog off lead but under control (mostly) and bitch on the lead and this doesn't bother ours overmuch. However, husband comes, dog on the lead, bitch free and holds them back by strength - it's like being in two different films.
Mine have to walk willingly at my side through the village and when we get to the path by the woods, I say "OK" and they then know they can sniff or whatever on the long lead or free, according to how good their control is.
Gillian
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#190789 - 04/16/2008 12:36 PM |
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I'd like to have them walk on a formal heel and not leave until I release them. I don't mind them having some freedom in some places, I'd just like them to heel when I say and then until I release them. Like a sit means sit until I release you. Same thing.
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#192644 - 04/28/2008 11:24 AM |
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I'm working on not getting my 12 month old to pull on walks. Changing the position of the prong collar has helped a lot. He still doesn't want to walk behind me. Can I keep him in a heel for the whole walk - 30 mins?
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#192649 - 04/28/2008 12:50 PM |
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Leslie, Seems like maybe you have not really established yourself as pack leader. When my wife walks our Doberman she pulls because she knows she can. I can take the leash and no matter what collar is on she will walk fine with me rather being free where they can go any where a leash length as long as she does not pull or on heal where she has to stay in position. If your dog doesn't know to stay in heal position yet a couple corrections with the prong and some rewards for complying you should have know issues.
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#192651 - 04/28/2008 01:15 PM |
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We do very similar - we start the walk in a heel position, just to remind Teagan WE walk HER. We will then release her from it so she has the freedon of the leash/long line. (Alway finish at heel too.)
However she will return to a heel position if we say so, such as passing cars/people or if she statrs pulling.
This can ONLY be done if you have established Pack Structure. You give the freedom, and can take it away again if the situation or bahviour dictates.
HTH
Rob
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#192674 - 04/28/2008 05:13 PM |
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When we walk Max we have him in a heal by our sides for the whole walk until we get to the park. Then he goes on the long line and can run and sniff and pee, whatever he wants. Then he goes back to the heal for the walk home.
So he gets his time to race around and be an idiot but it's on our terms. He seems really happy with this arrangement. We do however use a prong because he always seems to want to walk faster than us, so he pulls - not much, but enough to give us sore arms by the end of it. The prong has pretty much fixed this problem, probably won't be long before we don't need it anymore.
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#192704 - 04/28/2008 10:50 PM |
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Had a similar issue with Sasha. One thing that I did with her is when she gets out in front to change directions and start walking in the other direction, no commands just change. Eventually she got the idea that she needs to pay attention to me.
One thing that I have found is that when we turn and start walking in the opposite direction, she pays alot more attention and walks "perfectly" with her neck by my leg. When she catches up and is walking this way, I mark it with a "yes" and praise.
When we turn back around and continue on the path, she will be out in front a bit. We really worked on the "loose leash" thing and it finally clicked. Also noticed that when we are someplace different or new, she wil be out in front more. Probably just nervous and excited energy.
Guess it really all depends on what you want them to do on the walk and what you are comfortable with. I do agree that the ones that are out in front pulling and taking their owners for a walk, Sasha definitely has an issue with.
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