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#191411 - 04/20/2008 08:25 AM |
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I think I've run into a rather odd problem.
I purchased a Dogtra 1700 to work on the recall for my GSD. All well and good so far as that has gone.
Here's what happened about two weeks ago however. We heading back to the car after our walk/workout, she was alittle in front just sniffing around on the ground. Scanning the horizon I noted a goodish sized van heading across the main road bridge, my dog actually jumped off the ground and spun around in a complete circle, she caming running over and actually clung to me (very out of character for her). On the way home I started spectulating on the frequency of the reciever on the collar, and perhaps a short wave set in the truck. After some thought for a day or two, I shrugged it off as a fluke and let it go.
Jump to yesterday. I had back tied her to work on some bite foundations (that I screwed up a ways back, nother story). She had her harness on, pooh on me I forgot to take her e-collar off, but that shouldn't have been in the way at any rate. Well we were having a good pull on a medium tug and she just let go. Snap, just like that. I could interest her in the game through her prey but she wouldn't carry it though with a bite (completely out of character). I checked her mouth and teeth, all seemed well. Calling the game off, I could barly get her to carry the tug back to the car. Concerned about her being hurt, I've kept a sharp eye on her, but if she's hurt she hasn't shown any outward signs I've able to note.
The way she was flat knocked out of drive yesterday, I'm speculating on the frequencies used on the e-collar again.
Anybody else had a problem with interfering outside sources?
Any other ideas?
If my dog isn't learning, I'm doing something wrong.
Randy
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Re: frequency ranges
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#191413 - 04/20/2008 09:21 AM |
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I have seen dogs with neck issues behave like this. A thorough going over by a health care professional may be in order.
I might also contact Dogtra about the collar, and see if they have any recommendations. It's not impossible for a collar to malfunction.
Let us know what you find out.
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[Re: Cindy Easton Rhodes ]
#191418 - 04/20/2008 09:58 AM |
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I had thought about the neck Cindy, thanks for reminding me not to forget it, I almost had.
It was a nice straight pull, but I'm more then a little worried about the neck to tell the truth. One of those nagging hang nails in the back of whats left of my mind.
Kinda hoping for something simpler. Like oh yeah, have the frequency changed because some trucking company in your area is using the one set on your collar.
Oh well, I'll call the vet tomorrow, as a neck injury is probably the more likely between the two scenerios. Damn.
Thanks Cindy.
Randy
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#191446 - 04/20/2008 12:01 PM |
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Randy, I would also call Dogtra and find out if there is a possibility of outside interference on the same frequency. They should be able to answer that question. I've wondered about it too, just never remember to make the call. I haven't seen signs of interference but just wondered about it.
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#191484 - 04/20/2008 05:37 PM |
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That's a big ten-four Sandy. That is now on the list for sure. Duh, I'd already forgotten with the worry over Cassie. Thanks.
Something else came to mind though from an exchange from another forum friend.
I don't know how many people here have put the collar on themselves to feel what the dog feels but in the range that I decided not to go any further up in volts, I kinda just sat there and played with it for a few mintues. Just nick, nick, etc, well after a number of nicks I noted the zaps were getting sharper and sharper.......I thought just seating in and getting a better contact. Nick, nick........ya ouchooo hooooo hoooo this thing seem to have jumped in voltage on it's own.
Maybe a silly question, any body else found this happening? I rather thought it should be steady unless I turned it up manually. Should this collar have been returned instead of ignoring what I personally experienced.
Any body else to use it on themselves?
Thanks again everybody.
Randy
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#191490 - 04/20/2008 05:50 PM |
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That isn't right, the collar shouldn't change the stim level on it's own.
Roni is here visiting for a few days, so I'll have her chime in on this thread later this evening. She makes all of her students use the collar on themselves before they are allowed to use it on their dog.
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#191504 - 04/20/2008 07:41 PM |
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Randy,
I've used the Dogtra 1700 on myself and a number of different people. What I've found is the stim level that someone will feel something is individual, some feel it at 20, others don't feel anything until 40, but I've never noticed the stim level change on its own.
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[Re: Rich Pallechio ]
#191509 - 04/20/2008 08:53 PM |
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Hi Randy;
I agree with Cindy, about your dog needing to be checked by your vet. Your collar should not change frequency on it's own. I check all my collar when I get them in for consistency and I have not had a problem, but let's call Dogtra. Please keep us posted.
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Roni
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#191517 - 04/20/2008 11:07 PM |
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Thank you Roni, Cindy and all others.
Tomorrow I've got my laundry list of things to handle. Starting with the depressing avenue that my dog may be injured, with what, can't be a good prognosis.
While I can't blame the remote collar for any health issues, I'm still going to double check my initial trial with the unit and call Dogtra on the interference speculations, mentioning any aberrations in usage if it need be.
On a high note, in the yard today she ran by and stole one of my work gloves out of my back pocket and ran off with it giving it a death shake. She was very proud of her hard fought battle.
Thanks again all. I'll keep you posted.
Randy
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#191538 - 04/21/2008 07:20 AM |
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Hi Randy;
Hopefully, you have access to an animal chiropractor. I routinely use a chiro/acupunturist for my animals to keep them in optimum health. Good maintenance practice for our dogs with drives that don't seem to care for their "safety", lolo. Crazy mutts, gotta love em!!!!!!! Just make sure after an adjustment to curtail tug work until after a second appointment to verify that the spine stays in align.
Roni
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