It is amazing!!! You guys were right he was not comfortable with me. I have had my 19 month old shepherd "Blade" for just over two weeks. I started a little drive work with him over the last few days. He drive is much higher than when I first got him. He is getting comfortable now.
He has a full mouth firm grip. Here is the problem. I build up his frustration and wham he gets it. Then I can not get it back. He will not let go. I run him in the circle and go into to my arms. Occasionaly, I will try a sneak attack to get it the TUG and he has such a good grip he will not let go. In fact I can pull him off the ground moving side to side. All four have been off the ground.
Do I need to get it back while building drive? Or just keep playing tug and into my arms?
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Try trading for a piece of food or another tug/ball.
I don't worry about it much early on. I let the dog enjoy what he has and let him get possessive over it so he wants it even more later. Keep playing tug with him even if he doesn't drop it.
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Steve, not as experienced as others here, but eventually Sasha got the idea that I was the source of the "fun". Now after she gets the Orbee ball, she will bring it back to me with the string facing me so we can do it again. Didn't chase her just let her have the ball until she got tired and dropped it, then started the drive again. This took several sessions so be patient. Good luck, sounds like you are doing a great job.
I taught my dog "drop it" using food for motivation. He doesn't want to give up the tug either, but he has learned "drop it" and he knows that until the play session is over he will always get it back.
Today i tried to get him to drop it with a piece of food. He had no problem dropping the tug. But, now he has no interest in going back to the tug. This was only after one time of trying. I will keep trying it for a while and see what happens.
I think I saw on Flinks video where he graps them on the side real quick to get them to drop it???
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I think I saw on Flinks video where he graps them on the side real quick to get them to drop it??
There are better ways IMO, I don't like flanking the dog to get an out. Not many people are quick enough to do it properly anyway, but even then, I still don't care for it.
Young dogs have trouble switching drives, just persist with the tug. Eventually he will figure it out. Keep other food out of reach so he doesnt try digging in your pockets for more
I went to my first Schutzhund club meeting last night. One recomendation was to lift his front feet off of the ground and wait for him to drop it. It worked, took a while but he releaseed it. Not sure about this method. back in the day as a K9 officer we did this to get the out from the decoy.
seems like the food is a more positive experience for the dog.
I just tried the two ball method. It worked fairly well when playing fetch. I also noticed he had a higher drive for a ball than usual (he likes the tug.
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Lifting buy the collar or harness so the front feet are off the ground works, then you kick it away; aus/platz works, but you must be prepared to correct him if he does not or if he tries to grab the ball after he outs.
For now, since the dog is new to you, I would just have fun, play two ball (which gives you a natural out) and leave the pressure for later.
One more thing, don't let the dog get tired of the game first and quit. End the game with the dog always still wanting more from you, especially now when you are in the process of building a bond with him. You want him to always want more of you and what you are doing, never less.
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