Maybe you´ve seen this before, from the DDR meisterschaft in 1973, the good old days
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HNjX96qXpKQ

Thanks, that was something.

stig--THANKS!!

i hadn't seen that before; it was quite good i thought. don't have a bunch of time now--but who won that, as in the name of the GSD --i was impressed with him. (but what do i know?) i have more questions comments later, but would really like to know the winner's name...

LOL, I don't know Ann but I'd like to hear from someone who was in Schutzhund in the 70's. I could be looking at it wrong because I don't know what the rules may have been but running circles around the blind like he wants to mark it and leaving the field for a little run through the stands didnt fit with what I see at trials. The Schnauzers taking down the helper looked pretty good though.

Ummmmm...WOW..."the good old days"???

LOL, next time someone's talking about those mythical beasts of days gone by that no dog nowadays can match, I'm going to show them this.

I watched it along with a bunch of old KNPV and schh videos that were posted on youtube.
It really made me feel bad for the sport today. In the past the trial was a picture of what the dog was trained to do under what ever conditions were presented, still a practical approach to training. It was still fun.
Certainly one could point out the dogs in obedience were trained mainly through compulsion, the grips weren't perfect, the barking was not choreographed like it is today but that just makes in more interesting. You can see that if these dogs were doing this in the woods or a neighborhood it would be the same performance.
The physical demands on the dogs were much greater than on todays sport field. Vertical walls, long long pursuits, struck with a stick before the grip after having to sit and guard for several minutes. I am not a past was better kind of person here but there is no doubt the dogs were different, in some ways maybe better in others not so good. But having started with working dogs in about 81 I have seem many changes in the dogs.
More over the technology in training has improved tremendously but our demands on the dogs haven't increased with it as it should have.

Your experience gives you a more knowledgeable perspective then me, thats for sure. I went to my first Sch. trial around 1995 or so and have only recently started training in it. I've always been impressed the most by the fast, precise obedience and the obedience and control in the bitework. Just a fun sport, no thought at all to real-life applications you would look for.

Sorry, I posted the results in the wrong place, maybe one of the moderators would move it here where it belongs.

Those sleeves they had in DDR reminds me of the present sleeves used in the Swedish biteworkprogramm that you can see a performance of here,
http://www.lindjax.eu/Filmer/Lei-anns%20Ture%20SM%202002.wmv