 Keeping weight on with raw diet?
#198172 - 06/10/2008 03:30 PM |
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For those who feed raw and have a hard time keeping weight on your dog with the raw, when simply adding more raw MM and RMB does not help much-- what solutions, aside from adding kibble, help? What about a bit of cooked white rice? I suspect I may have this issue when my dog is switched to raw. I just don't want to add kibble.  I have one of those dogs who does get ill if kibble and raw are fed in the same day.
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#198173 - 06/10/2008 03:34 PM |
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Some dogs do better with a bit of grain in their diet. Or you could add some fat from beef trimmings.
Quinoa is the best grain that I have found that works well, and it is also in some of the Honest Kitchen formulas that I use as well.
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#198207 - 06/10/2008 07:25 PM |
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For a normal healthy dog, I'd probably add more fatty meat (gradually).
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#198213 - 06/10/2008 08:35 PM |
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Just feed more. Way more if you have to.
Make sure that bone content is not too high. (Like if you were feeding chicken backs for every meal) Think whole prey.
This is what worked for me and some others I know that have had the problem.
When my dog was younger and I was fooling around with trying to add this and that to get him to gain weight my vet (who is a raw feeder) just told me to DOUBLE what I was feeding him.
How old is the dog? Of course this advice is for a dog that is healthy, and there is not some medical reason for faliure to thrive.
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#198218 - 06/10/2008 09:47 PM |
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I have to say that I always assumed when this came up before that the dog was eating all that he would eat and still losing weight, so that the caloric density had to be manipulated.
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#198233 - 06/11/2008 12:51 AM |
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I have to say that I always assumed when this came up before that the dog was eating all that he would eat and still losing weight, so that the caloric density had to be manipulated.
 Yes well that would make sense!
In my case and the case of a collegue we just couldn't beleive how much we had to feed (winter especially)when we swithced to raw and kept increasing by such small amounts and feeding too much bone when we did increase by larger amounts we didn't see the weight gain expected. Both our dogs would eat all they were given.
I am so "Farleycentric" I can't imagine that there are dogs that wouldn't eat until they explode 
My appologies to the op for misreading the situation.
Tripe would be another one of my suggestion. If you can't get raw, I hear that the canned is good for putting on weight and dogs like it will eat it as extras.
Then there is that Satin Balls recipe that people talk about..someone must have a link....
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#198239 - 06/11/2008 02:35 AM |
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Thanks for all the replies! Grimm is 18 months. We begin raw soon. He has had experiments with raw, andloves it-- but at the end of this month, we go 100% raw, NO kibble. He eats quite a bit of grain-free Orijen fish kibble to keep weight on. I am prepared to feed more if I need to of the raw. Grimm may be fat-sensitive, so I need to be cautious in adding fat-- if I did, I would do as Connie suggests, and do it very gradually. I would possibly add food-processed potatoes or cooked white rice if I can't afford enough raw meat(am on disability).. but no kibble.
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#198278 - 06/11/2008 10:47 AM |
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Thanks for all the replies! Grimm is 18 months. We begin raw soon. He has had experiments with raw, andloves it-- but at the end of this month, we go 100% raw, NO kibble. He eats quite a bit of grain-free Orijen fish kibble to keep weight on. I am prepared to feed more if I need to of the raw. Grimm may be fat-sensitive, so I need to be cautious in adding fat-- if I did, I would do as Connie suggests, and do it very gradually. I would possibly add food-processed potatoes or cooked white rice if I can't afford enough raw meat(am on disability).. but no kibble.
Do you know that rice and potato are pretty low-calorie low-nutrient starches? I mean, the cheapest meats are way higher in calories (and so weight gain) in smaller quantities. I'd guess that an ounce of cooked brown rice has 20 or 25 calories, versus an ounce of meat (and this would have a huge range) going from 55 to 90 for many types.
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#198279 - 06/11/2008 10:48 AM |
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Yes well that would make sense!
Oh, no, I was kinda feeling around to see if I had assumed incorrectly.
Looks like I did, and you were correct. 
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#198280 - 06/11/2008 10:55 AM |
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P.S. Dogs in this way are just like people. Increasing calories or decreasing caloric expenditure puts on weight. Whether the dog is an "easy keeper" or a "hard keeper," still, within that dog's parameters (set by his metabolism), increased calories increase weight. Foods referred to as things "that put weight on" (if they indeed do) are simply high in calories.
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