 Raw Beef Marrow Bones
#199009 - 06/18/2008 01:08 AM |
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I picked these up in the frozen dog food section at the local Whole Foods:
I'm a bit scared to give them to Beast. The guy from the meat department told me to boil them to thaw them out then let him go to work. Is it ok for Beast to eat these?
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#199011 - 06/18/2008 01:21 AM |
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How big is beast? If I had a large dog who was a gulper I might not give those to him. My papillons and spaniel I'd have no issues with giving those to. They're too big for them to gulp and generally aren't hard chewers where I'd worry about them cracking teeth.
I wouldn't boil them as that makes them brittle. Just let them thaw.
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#199012 - 06/18/2008 02:42 AM |
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I buy a large amount of beef marrow bones every week. I sometime lightly cold smoke them, but cooking is a no no. I like smoking them so they don't stink the place up when the marrow and fat go a rancid. The point of the bones IMO is to allow the dogs a go at them while they are fresh and soft allowing them to get the marrow from the centers. I have had a dog break a tooth on pet store sterile bones. Be it cooking or just aging in the yard, they get very hard and can either splinter into shards which can then injure the dog, or they will grind down/break their teeth on hard bones.
As for sizing the bone? I have a Shi Tzu who gladly climbs his bone to get a go at the marrow in the center, but I know he is unable to swallow the bone itself in any form. The other dogs, seem to just make all day suckers our of them, but I have never has a dog try and gulp one down.
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#199018 - 06/18/2008 07:33 AM |
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I have had a dog break a tooth on pet store sterile bones. Be it cooking or just aging in the yard, they get very hard and can either splinter into shards which can then injure the dog, or they will grind down/break their teeth on hard bones.
Fresh, raw marrow bones can break teeth too, if your dog is a really intense chewer. I used to give bones, just like the ones in your picture, regularly, until my dog fractured a molar. Not only did he need a root canal to save the tooth, but the dentist discovered his mouth was full of little, not-so-serious fractures/chips (but chips just the same), all from trying to grind his way through those tough beef leg bones. He's 95lbs, but I almost feel like the bigger dogs are at bigger risk, as their jaws can produce so much more force than a little dog - and if they aren't "careful" chewers (some dogs are quite delicate about it), they risk fracturing teeth. I don't give my guy these bones anymore, but you should use your judgement since you know YOUR dog's tendencies the best.
Beef marrow bones are probably THE strongest bones in the cow's body - they're designed to rigidly support 2,000+ pounds of animal... dog teeth are mighty strong, but they can and do fail, and it can be expensive to fix.
Just my 2 cents.
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#199022 - 06/18/2008 08:46 AM |
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If you can find a supplier of venison necks I find them to be great teeth-cleaning, long-lasting RMBs. My dog consumes the whole thing but it can take him an hour to do so, depending on the size.
Bravo also sells them so if you have a Bravo distributor near you, they probably can order it.
Never bake, boil, or microwave bones. Even doing so briefly will, as Melissa said, make them brittle and dangerous for your dog.
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#199048 - 06/18/2008 11:45 AM |
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Bravo also sells them so if you have a Bravo distributor near you, they probably can order it.
Sarah, I just checked out the Bravo necks; they look good and meaty. Does your dog eat the bone, too? I have always been worried about neck bones because they look so sharp...
Are they OK to feed?
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#199057 - 06/18/2008 12:42 PM |
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They are really meaty and next-to-no fat.
With the larger pieces he might leave only a very small piece of bone. The smaller-sized pieces he eats the entire thing.
This is an RMB, not a rec bone, so they are meant to be consumed. But they are big and just hard enough that it keeps him busy and takes him awhile to get through it.
I also feed pork necks that I get in the grocery. Harder than poultry necks, softer than venison necks, and a little more fatty...but cheap! 
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#199060 - 06/18/2008 12:50 PM |
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I also feed pork necks that I get in the grocery. Harder than poultry necks, softer than venison necks, and a little more fatty...but cheap!
Sarah, are these neck bones roughly single vertebrae that have been sawed from the whole spine, or thinner/smaller slices than that? I don't think I've ever seen anything but neck bones than have been cut into pieces that are 2 and 3 inches square (probably the equivalent of a 1/4 of a whole vertebrae)... or is that what you're referring to? I'm still so wary about feeding anything but poultry bones... but I know Oscar LOVES to spend an hour taking apart a "project" like that! 
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#199061 - 06/18/2008 12:56 PM |
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I thought the boiling idea was no good.....thanks for clearing that up.
I'm not going to risk having him damage his teeth. He's a 130lb Rottweiler and a powerful chewer so he would definitely be able to break up some of the bone. He loves his Kong anyway.
I'll search for venison necks....great info.
THANKS AGAIN.
Beast is pissed I think....he really wants those bones:
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#199068 - 06/18/2008 01:26 PM |
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Sarah, are these neck bones roughly single vertebrae that have been sawed from the whole spine, or thinner/smaller slices than that? I don't think I've ever seen anything but neck bones than have been cut into pieces that are 2 and 3 inches square (probably the equivalent of a 1/4 of a whole vertebrae)... or is that what you're referring to? I'm still so wary about feeding anything but poultry bones... but I know Oscar LOVES to spend an hour taking apart a "project" like that!
I think we're talking about the same thing. Depending on the whimsy of the butcher, I get anywhere from 2in chunks up to 5in., sometimes completely separated and sometimes not, and it's probably about 1/4 of the vertebrae.
I like pork neck bones better than, say, lamb bones. Lamb bones seem awfully hard, at least to me, so I don't give those very often. And they are very expensive.
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