Rosalinda van den Ham wrote 08/15/2008 06:55 PM Dominance in spite of muzzle? #205926 - 08/15/2008 06:55 PM
Rosalinda van den Ham Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2007 Posts: 208 Loc: Aruba Offline	Two days ago we were walking with my dogs in front of a house with a yard with an open gate when suddenly in a split of a second a dog (golden retriever mix)came out of the yard and attacked my GSD. That day I forgot my stick, and my dog was muzzled (he is dog agressive) so I did not expect the other dog to retreat easily. But after a few minutes my dog pressed the other dog down, and held him down. The the other dog ran away. That did not last because then the other dog wanted to attack again, but I prevented this. What happened there? Was it dominance in spite of the muzzle? What really made me angry was the fact that I had warned the dog owner more than one time that this would happen if he did not close his gate or tie the dog. The day it happened he did nothing he only told me after the attack "that I should not walk in front of his house with my dog" I am very glad however the dog did not attack my Chi pup, who was ready to 'take the other dog on'.
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Jennifer N. Hack wrote 08/15/2008 07:07 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Rosalinda van den Ham ] #205929 - 08/15/2008 07:07 PM
Jennifer N. Hack Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2008 Posts: 109 Loc: USA Offline	Even though the muzzle takes away the dogs main weapon, he seems very confident. I suppose he worked around the muzzle and was able to pin the dog, good for him. In protection work, there is muzzle fighting used. Did you make a police report or complaint to AC?
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Rosalinda van den Ham wrote 08/15/2008 07:34 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Jennifer N. Hack ] #205939 - 08/15/2008 07:34 PM
Rosalinda van den Ham Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2007 Posts: 208 Loc: Aruba Offline	Well I could report it to the police, but I doubt they would take the report seriously, you see, both the owners sons are cops. He should know better. I do not know if the same law applies in the US but here every dog owner is responsible for the damage his dog causes (liability, I have such an insurance also just in case for my dog). The irresponsibilty of such owners is a pity though, loose dogs have caused some (fatal)car & motorcycle accidents already. In those cases suddenly nobody owns those dogs. Can you imagine what would happen if some day a child walks by, gets scared when a loose dog runs after him/her and crosses a busy road? What is AC? I will not leave home again without my stick, I will not change my route and I will simply let the stick do the talking if the dog attacks again. I did walk in front of the house again today and for some reason the dog did not come outside the fence again, maybe the owner tied the dog this time.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 08/15/2008 07:43 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Rosalinda van den Ham ] #205940 - 08/15/2008 07:43 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I really would report it. Then when something bad does happen, they will have been on notice.
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Rosalinda van den Ham wrote 08/15/2008 08:55 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #205952 - 08/15/2008 08:55 PM
Rosalinda van den Ham Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2007 Posts: 208 Loc: Aruba Offline	Well, you are right, I should have. Unfortunately I am too late for that. I should have called the police immediately after the attack, then the police would have talked to the owner. Luckily my dog did not get any physical or psychological injuries,the other dog did not bite hard enough and my dog's behaviour did not change one bit after the attack. But my patience is running out with all those loose dogs and irresponsible dogowners. This is the 2nd attack already (1rst attack was by another dog). I will call the police next time.
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Jennifer N. Hack wrote 08/15/2008 09:03 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Rosalinda van den Ham ] #205955 - 08/15/2008 09:03 PM
Jennifer N. Hack Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2008 Posts: 109 Loc: USA Offline	I don't care who is a cop. They are not above the law. I would report them as having a dangerous dog who ran OUT of their property and was aggressive towards you and your leashed dog, more than once. I hope your stick is a cattle prod, lol.
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ann freier wrote 08/15/2008 09:21 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Jennifer N. Hack ] #205962 - 08/15/2008 09:21 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	Quote: jennifer n. hack I don't care who is a cop. They are not above the law. I would report them as having a dangerous dog who ran OUT of their property and was aggressive towards you and your leashed dog, more than once. I hope your stick is a cattle prod, lol. oh jennifer, i wish i had your faith in the cops. not only here in the USA, but Aruba (??). JM (jaded)O.....but i like your "cattle prod" comment--nothing like a hot-shot to get someone's attention
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Jennifer N. Hack wrote 08/15/2008 09:37 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: ann freier ] #205964 - 08/15/2008 09:37 PM
Jennifer N. Hack Webboard User Reg: 07-15-2008 Posts: 109 Loc: USA Offline	I will have a cop reported to their boss if they do something wrong, I really don't care, there is still policy and procedure. In fact, they are supposed to be an example of law-abiding. Cops who break that will soon find their power-trip ending when they get fired. My best friend is a cop, and she got in trouble by her boss for having tinted windows, lol, it's parked outside the station. They are making her un-tint her windows and she is pissed off, even though she has written people tickets for the same thing. Hypocrite.
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Rosalinda van den Ham wrote 08/15/2008 09:47 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Jennifer N. Hack ] #205968 - 08/15/2008 09:47 PM
Rosalinda van den Ham Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2007 Posts: 208 Loc: Aruba Offline	I do not know what a cattle prod is (english is not my native language), but it sure sounds like a kind of stick I could use
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Rosalinda van den Ham wrote 08/15/2008 09:53 PM Re: Dominance in spite of muzzle? [Re: Jennifer N. Hack ] #205972 - 08/15/2008 09:53 PM
Rosalinda van den Ham Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2007 Posts: 208 Loc: Aruba Offline	I am pleasently surprised to hear what they made your cop friend do. Ann is right, this would never happen here.
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