leih merigian wrote 09/30/2008 10:17 AM What Is Flanking? #211149 - 09/30/2008 10:17 AM
leih merigian Webboard User Reg: 06-16-2008 Posts: 915 Loc: Central Virginia Offline	Flanking has been mentioned repeatedly in the "outing" post. From the context, it&#039;s obviously a technique for getting the dog to do something, and I&#039;d also guess it&#039;s on the abrasive side<g>. Could someone please define it for me? What, exactly, is flanking? (We don&#039;t use this technique in agility training<g>.) TIA, leih
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JessicaKromer wrote 09/30/2008 10:49 AM Re: What Is Flanking? [Re: leih merigian ] #211154 - 09/30/2008 10:49 AM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	Put simply, it is grabbing the flank of the dog. It should only be done by someone with a ton of experience, and only on some dogs. Done incorrectly, it hurts bad you WILL be bitten. It will make the dog loose drive, and make them shy/suspicious about being handled back there. Done correctly, it surprises the dog into dropping the item, and then they are brought right back into drive, so that they can win. There are many ways to train the out, and this one is best left to professionals. Jessica
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 09/30/2008 10:51 AM Re: What Is Flanking? [Re: leih merigian ] #211155 - 09/30/2008 10:51 AM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Flanking is grabbing or pinching the dog by the flank. For every thing that can be taught by flanking, there is another less "abrasive" way to achieve the same goal.
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leih merigian wrote 09/30/2008 11:00 AM Re: What Is Flanking? [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #211156 - 09/30/2008 11:00 AM
leih merigian Webboard User Reg: 06-16-2008 Posts: 915 Loc: Central Virginia Offline	Thanks for the info. It&#039;s not a technique I&#039;d use for anything, but I do like to understand what others are talking about. leih
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ann freier wrote 10/01/2008 10:17 PM Re: What Is Flanking? [Re: leih merigian ] #211330 - 10/01/2008 10:17 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	as above: it&#039;s grabbing the dog just in front of a hind leg (between the leg and the ribs), and it WILL get you bitten. or pee&#039;d on. usually bitten. not something anyone should "try". for whatever reason. not something will EVER do to my dog without a clear reason---and try to convince me it&#039;s "OK". haha
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John Stopps wrote 10/02/2008 12:17 PM Re: What Is Flanking? [Re: ann freier ] #211368 - 10/02/2008 12:17 PM
John Stopps Webboard User Reg: 03-10-2008 Posts: 238 Loc: Offline	I trained the out without using anything but praise. If he outed on command, he got praise, and the ball was thrown again. If not, I repeated the command and took it away. It probably took longer than other methods (2 months), but he doesn&#039;t drop it expecting a treat when he brings it back to me. And he&#039;s dropping it about 99.9% of the time now. Rommel vom Kozies
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