I posted a small rant on another board about a coon dog who showed up baying it's head off in the middle of our property (180 acres) last night. I had found it a bit annoying and the dog was driving one of mine nuts.
I have no issues with hunters/hunting and my grandparents usually give permission to anyone in the community who asks (as do most of the the folks around here). But is is nice to know who is going to be using the property and a general idea of when.
I was surprised at a couple of responses - they were basicly saying, well that's just what the dogs do and the owners can't really control where the dogs end up. And they're just out enjoying working their dogs. I understand enjoying working your dog in the great outdoors, but isn't trespassing still just a bit illegal and potentaily dangerous?
Am I missing some bit of hound dog or coon hunting knowledge here?
I'm sure there is another side of this story, but if I was in your shoes, I'd definitely feel the way you do.
It's generally accepted behavior, at least in this area, to stop in with the land owner and/or occupants before you head out (or the evening beforehand). It's not only polite, but a matter of safety to make sure that they know you are hunting today/in the morning, and finding out if other hunters are/will be on the property.
Granted, if your land abuts another person's land who permits hunting, or public access hunting land, it may be a simple matter of the dog having followed game out of the intended area. I still would be annoyed in your shoes, and certainly a responsible hunter (and dog owner) would have made it a point to aproach the landowner/tennant when he became aware he had stumbled onto private property.
You can probably correct the problem by finding the hunter's truck (drive around the area until you find it) and leaving a note on it.
There is a chance that the dog was just running game on it's own, if that is the case you would need to go to the dog and call the owners (it's required by law that the owner's name and phone number be on the collar) to let them know their dog was on your place.
I actually waited out near the dog with my dogs and talked to the guy when he came to collect her. I mentioned being concerned about dogs on the loose because I had livestock (I know the dog would more than likely leave them alone, but I thought it was a good way to nicely get my point across). He apoligized, I said it wasn't a big deal and we went our ways.
What surprised me was the comments on the other board that it was to be expected for dogs to run all over others property in pursuit of coons. And that it was not big deal not to have permission. That seems both rude and dangerous to me. But after their comments I was begining to wonder if I was in the minority with my opinions!
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Wow. And don't many livestock owners keep livestock guardians who would not be nice (and justifiably so) to a canine intruder? In fact, aren't canine intruders one of their top priorities? That would sure be in my mind if that was my dog.....
Yes, often times there are guardian animals in with a flock of sheep. Donkeys for one could kill a dog that wandered into their area.
And there is a fair amount of old barbed wire fences throughout the woods from when my grandparents used to have cows. So getting caught up in old fencing is another danger for dogs.
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007
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Trespassing here is a big no no. It will get your hunting license pulled by the state. I personally would speak to the guy once to let him know it's annoying and hopefully it wouldn't come up again. As others have mentioned it is also dangerous as who knows really what their neighbors do in their spare time on their property.
As far as other webboards I will always point people to the John Gabriel Greater Internet ****wad Theory. Google it if you must. I have always found it to be true.
Yes, often times there are guardian And flock-guarding llamas and guardian dogs......
Whoa - are do people actually use llamas to guard flocks? For real? That makes for a funny mental picture (to me, at least!) Beware - guard llama on premises! LMAO!!
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