Hi all or should I say Y'ALL,

I am the Brit living in Texas who introduced herself here a few weeks ago in all the wrong places on the board... Thanks Connie for correcting me! I have now been studying all the Leerburg forums and am ready to take a test on what to post where...possibly

I have now mastered(or so i think) photobucket and am proud and pleased to announce "Tazer", my German Bred GSD (V. Arminius and V.de Wienerau.). Here is a picture of him on his first day home at 12 weeks old, exploring the plant life in my yard for future possible attack.

I hope I can live up to his excellent working lineage and so I will have many questions as we go along regarding SCH training. I did not do that with my last GSD.

Tazer is now 16 weeks old and so quick and eager to learn. House/Crate training was a breeze. Mind you, I was exhausted from trips outside to go "shoo-shoo" every 15 mins in the first 2 weeks, that proved to be well worth the effort. We have only had 2 accidents in a month and they were "handler error'!

He is almost too good to be true, methinks I may have bought a ROBOT!! Thanks for all the amazing information that this Leerburg site provides...I look forward to reading and learning all I can...

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr127/k9tazer/IMG_0186.jpg

Lisha, I mean no disrespect but the two lines you quoted in your post are mainly show lines or high lines so I take issue with your phrase (I hope I can live up to his excellent working lineage). I’m taking a very good guess, given the two lines you offered, that the large majority of dogs in its background were first selected because of how close to the standard they were because that (showing) was the goal of their breeders. Now if showing is your pleasure you have a very good chance of being successful. However if schutzhund is your pleasure your chances of the same degree of success are not as good as most of the dogs you will see at the schutzhund clubs you visit, that were chosen mainly because they were successful in their work. To be successful in showing i.e., create a show line, takes very aggressive breeding of dogs that come very close the standard and culling of many generations of dogs that don’t and the same holds true for maintaining all that is necessary for work except the litmus test is how well they perform that work and has little to do with how close they are to their standard. Therein lies the difference between the two types and it is a big difference as most working dogs do not do well in the show ring because they look and act different, that is not as laid back and or not as pleasing to the show judge’s eye. Those same differences via their breeding goals are the same reasons that we don’t see many show dogs excelling in schutzhund. None of my above has anything to do with what a good pet and or companion your dog will be, or if it will protect you and your family. I applaud you for making the effort and nothing would make me happier than you to do very well in the sport and prove me wrong.

Norman well Thank you....I think

I know those lines are show lines and are certainly in his pedigree farther back, my previous dog was similarly situated. The last 7 generations on both sire and dam are mostly Sch 3(occasional 2). From reading your welcome advice and comments, I seem to be misunderstanding the true meaning of Schutzhund qualification then.
I just want to ensure that Tazer is worked appropriately and that he is happy and contented. I now have the time to devote to whatever area of training will acheive that. All advice and comments are gratefully received and I certainly don't mind looking misinformed or foolish.
Tazer is only 16weeks old now and so I hope I am asking for help in how best to serve him and his needs in plenty of time...I dont just want to sit on the sidelines and let our time together slip by without using him as his breeding intends...I guess I am on this site looking for direction and insight...Thanks all for taking the time to read and reply, I know you are busy...

Lisha understand I don’t know the extent of your training experience therefore my intent was that you, because of a possible lack of hands on experience, did not become disappointed in your dog if it was not able to keep up with the dogs that were bred for work. If this happens it is not the fault of your dog or you but the goal of the breeders who created him. I think you should train your dog and both of you will be the better for it and look forward to hearing of your progress.

lisha--he's a pretty boy!! maybe you could post his pedigree, but the 2 lines you mention are showlines--not to say Tazer won't work, at all, you get the joy and pleasure of exploring his abilities-the best part of owning a dog.

i know there are some good clubs in the DFW area, hopefully you'll get some responses fr ppl in clubs, if not, post on the forum under the appropriate title and you'll find some!! best of luck--he IS a pretty boy

Ann..TY for your comments I think he is a cutie also! I chose for temperament/intelligence though and not looks. He is from similar pedigree and breeders as my previous GSD. "Klaus" was an amazing dog and did everything I asked as well as teaching me alot along our way. Here is an excerpt from Tazer's pedigree(7Gen, there is a ton more). Hope this posting is not too long...you did ask and your comments are very much welcomed.
Mother's side
SCHH3
VA5 (I) Pascha vom Zellwaldrand
SZ/2119793
SCHH3
World Sieger 2004/2005 - VA1 Larus von Batu
SZ/2062960
SCHH3
World Sieger 2001/2002 - VA1 Yasko vom Farbenspiel
SZ/2010154
SCHH3
World Sieger 2000 - VA1 Ursus von Batu
SZ/1932624
SCHH3 KKL1 LBZ.
World Siegerin 1997 - VA1 Connie vom Farbenspiel
SZ/1903611
SCHH3
VA1 (I) Hobby vom Gletschertopf
SZ/1859356
SCHH3 FH
VA1 Jeck vom Noricum
SZ/1705812
SCHH3 FH
VA6 Odin von Tannenmeise
SZ/1655056

Father’s side
SCHH3
World Sieger 2006 - VA1 Zamp vom Thermodos
SZ/2101021
SCHH3
VA2 Quantum von Arminius
SZ/2055986
SchH3
VA6 Dux della Valcuvia
SZ/2052621
SchH3
VA8 Max della Loggia dei Mercanti
SZ/1944110
SCHH3/FH/BHP1
VA1 Visum von Arminius
SZ/1789549
SCHH3 FH
VA1 Jeck vom Noricum
SZ/1705812
SCHH3 FH
VA6 Odin von Tannenmeise
SZ/1655056

Where do you suggest I repost this question to get more feedback? I am new here and have made a couple of posting errors !!!
http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr127/k9tazer/IMG_0080-1.jpg
Latest pic he is growing SO fast...

Nice looking puppy you have there!! He is definitely from show lines from the info you posted but I say dont let that change anything and keep moving forward and training that lil bugger, I bet he'll be a great dog for you

Have Fun

Kathy,

After the week I have had so far you have NO IDEA how your post encourages me...Thank you so much!

Here is a better pic...14 weeks!
://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr127/k9tazer/IMG_0186.jpg