Patrick Hennigan Webboard User Reg: 09-01-2001
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Looking for tips, advice, etc...
Young male working GSD (14mo) - full calm hard grips with alot of power and speed. All prey right now of course. Bernhard loves his speed!!!
Ok...now anything on what should be taught first....start bark and hold or starting run outs of blinds...? Is it ok to at least start both as he doesnt need to do a bark in hold yet while doing run outs from the blinds. Also any tips, advice on these two parts while in first stages?
Thanks in advance...
Pat
Whatever progression you decide on, teach and train each discipline separately so they are not adversely effected. If targeting, strike, and grip are very good and the dog will attack without hesitation then I start to teach barking before biting. This can be done away from the blind so the dog does not associate biting with or in the blind. After barking for the bite and biting comes the out training. Also do some escapes from the down position and see how fast the dog learns to control the helper by downing on his own for the escape. Then the searching and obedience training for protection phases. Don’t forget to be using distractions for proofing the teaching/training. And then there is always the desensitizing phase. Just a few ideas to get you started, there are always more...........the dog will tell you.
I would normally start the bark and hold exersise first. The dog does not have to be solid on the Bark and hold but he should understand what you want from him at least. If the dog is a dog that is driven but not hard to control and you have a good decoy, you are looking at maybe ten sessions of bark and holds before you can start the blind search. I like the dog to have a little understanding of the B@H before blind work. I like to start the Bark and Hold with tricking the dog into thinking the helper is in blind number 1 and then have him go to number two when the dog is not looking. You can start a training session with a hold and guard in blind number one then have the decoy go back into blind number one, heel the dog way so that he cannot see the helper go to number two, and so on. When he gets to number two, have the decoy run off and give him a bite, before it is time for the hold and bark, but make sure the decoy runs in a direction that forces the dog to cirlce the blind. TIming is the key here.
Patrick Hennigan Webboard User Reg: 09-01-2001
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Great, thanks. Yes we have been starting them seperatly.
As far as barking for the bite he knows that already..have been doing the prey development since yougn age. Does do outs as well without getting chewy or sacraficing grip.
We have been doing about 5 sessions of b/h and you can see when it starts clicking in them...pretty cool...he was never allowed to get dirty so he is very clean. We have just done 1 session of the blind running so far. First we gave him a bite...helper then ran to a blind...I sent dog....helper let him see him on the correct side then at last second ran out....very nice. he had alot of speed and bit well...blind did not phase him....i didnt think it would.
I have not been doing ony obed in protection yet...only the out.
Now from what we have done do you see any problems?
Are you doing outs on the man or when the dog carries the sleeve after winning it from the helper? How are you teaching the hold and bark? And when you say "blind run outs", do you mean attacks out of the blind like the Sch1 routine or escape-type bites where the helper runs away from the dog?
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