Slowing down in the send away
#230826 - 03/08/2009 02:13 PM |
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Hi everyone
Until a month ago my boy did the perfect send away,now he trots away from me sniffing around,no interest.He reaches the target and i can down him.
When he retrieves on the other hand he bolts out and returns just as fast.
How do i get the speed back to the send away.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230829 - 03/08/2009 02:49 PM |
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It's an exercise I struggle with to be honest but these things have brought speed back to my dog even though it seems to go away again at the wrong time. I can't take credit for any of these, they're all suggestions from others.
1.You may be downing him too often, go back to working that separate.
2. Keep the target in the same place in clear sight. Keep the dog at the same distance, but you move up to the target and give the command (Voraus) while pointing at the target so it almost resembles a re-call. Increase the distance you are from the target without changing the position of the dog or target. You are working your way back towards the dog.
3.Marker train touching the target again separate from the actual send out at short distance, 6-8 feet is how I did it so that you can work quickly and build excitement for touching the target.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230833 - 03/08/2009 02:59 PM |
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Also Yusuf, a lot of it with my dog was needing to change a piece of the training no matter which way you work on it. Instead of him being able to get his own reward by running out to a toy, he needed to know that the reward comes from me only when he completed what I was sending him to do.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230847 - 03/08/2009 04:27 PM |
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Hi Yusuf,
Just a few thoughts in response to your question...
I never "down" my dog in practicing the send out; I do test her down from a distance periodically when we're playing ball.
I use one of her favorite toys (the orbee ball) for the send away reward -- and I reserve it specifically for the send away and play afterward.
I use the send away as the way I end each training session -- so after heeling, dumbbell work, jumps etc --it's become a "release" she really looks forward to.
Hope that helps.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230859 - 03/08/2009 07:34 PM |
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Yeah, those are good details Katie.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230863 - 03/08/2009 08:17 PM |
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Instead of him being able to get his own reward by running out to a toy, he needed to know that the reward comes from me only when he completed what I was sending him to do.
Funny Steve, there is a Rottie in my club that fits that scenario exactly too.
Katie
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230866 - 03/08/2009 08:43 PM |
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I use one of her favorite toys (the orbee ball) for the send away reward -- and I reserve it specifically for the send away and play afterward.
Katie, when you do this, is the orbee "out there" for her to pick up on her own? Or is it more of the "do what I say first, then I'll give you your reward" type of scenario, as Steve described?
(I assume that's what you meant Steve, please correct me if I'm wrong )
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230872 - 03/08/2009 09:48 PM |
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Yeah thats what I mean Yuko. At one point I did hang the toy a few feet off the ground and he would charge out to grab it because he could run right through with the toy. But then he started slowing down and I couldnt figure out how to get him going again.
Another mistake I made was letting him watch me go out and place the toy on each rep. If I didnt walk out there first he wouldnt go. So when I started with the marker I would put it and my dumbell out before I took him out of the car then always do a couple of retrieves before the send out, and like Katie said finishing with that excercise.
To a certain point you do it the same way over and over, but each dog has something different to get them out there.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230890 - 03/08/2009 11:40 PM |
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Thanks Steve,
I never have to worry about speed with my guy if he can see the orbee. He's nuts for that thing
However it sounds like I made the same mistake you did, letting him see the ball being placed too often. I'll try it your way, thanks again.
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Re: Slowing down in the send away
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#230893 - 03/08/2009 11:48 PM |
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One way to being phasing out the placed reward is to heal out to your spot, let him see you drop the reward, and then heel away.
While you are heeling away, have a second person sneak out and remove the reward.
Depends on the dog's temperment.
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