I have a question based purely on curiousity. Yesterday I was at a police K9 demo and one of the dogs was a GSD and Mal Hybrid. There explanation was it had the working drive of the Mal, but the temperment of the GSD. They further explained that Mals are quicker to take matters into there own hands where GSD will look to the handler.
I am curious as to whether or not breeding a Mal with a GSD in a good idea? Has anyone had first hand experience with these hybrids?.
Again, I'm just curious and have no interest in getting a hybrid. My dutch is more than enough to keep me busy.
I think that ideally, the cross of these two breeds shouldn't be necessary. However, I can see where the outcross may be viewed as necessary, since so many folks are breeding the drive and sure temperment out of the GSD.
I would prefer to see them find a good GSD breeder, rather that outcross and create a working mutt. Either way, if they're happy and the dog is working out well for them, that's what counts in the end.
I guess in some ways, this is the inevitable result of watering down the GSD breed.
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Wes,
Like Jenni said, it happens a lot, especially in the KNPV in Holland and NVBK in Belgium. In these arenas the dogs are not FCI/AKC registered and the people breeding typically have intimate knowledge of parents/grandparent & are breeding strictly for work. I don't recommend the practice for 99% of people, b/c even with a good pairing there can be a lot of variation in the litter, and in this country 1st hand knowledge of 2-3 generations in few and far between.
We have a Dutch Shepherd x GSD, he is a very good dog, will be showing for the SchH2 this weekend. You can see him on our website, his name is Wish. The site hasn't been updated for about 6 months, sorry.
Posters are right. GSD/Mal breeding isn't real uncommon. Some times the "cross" happened many generations back and the dogs will look like mals then one crops up with a saddle.
We had one in my unit several years back. The dog wasn't from a GSD to a Mal but was from some line breeding on a cross that had occurred successfully in the 70's!
I have heard of some more going on in several places but to assume you get the best of both defies the reality of heredity.
The biggest benefit tends to be simply opening up the genetic pool. Something that needs to be done occasionally since working lines tend to have a high percentage in inbreeding and seeking high performance dogs tends to increase this number.
Then ya go back to inbreeding until you get to much then outcross again. This is a general formulae that you can see has produced working dogs for a long time.
I have 2 Mal. GSD. crosses and they are great dogs. They were an accident but I am glad it happened. We train SAR and police dogs. These are two sisters about 8 months old. One we are training for cadaver work and the other drug dog. We have found them to very easy trained and can't wait to please you. I am looking forward to working both of these dogs. Thank you.
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