I seem to have a big problem with my 18 month old Pit mix. He works well on leash and long line.He is good on a long down stay out of sight. The problem is when he is in the house and I want to put on the leash he will come to the door then run away I call him he comes back them bolts.Today he was out in our fenced yard.I would call him, he would come to me.I give the down command and he would bolt. He knows when he has no leash he can get away.Any help would be appreciated. Jerry
Two recommendations. One would be to visit our electric collar threads. The other would be to think about what is going on here. He comes to you nicely. I assume you accomplished this by rewarding the dog ever time he came when you called. You then would put the leash on him, which would not lead to a reward. Start rewarding after the leash is attached. Soon he will be running to you ever time he sees the leash.
I thnk it is more likely that the dog is playing a game that he has been rewarded for. Teach him to sit so you can put the leash on. Rewards would help to get him to stay close.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
I agree with all the other posts so far. Want a quick fix? Get an Innotek BT50, one of the most inexpensive collars out there. I love mine, and used it to correct the exact same problem with my Dobe. The trick is to pop him when he runs, but praise the crap out of him when he doesnt. Teach him its A LOT more fun not to run. Besides that if your like me and live near a road, if your dog bolts off blindly away from you he might run in front of a car. I had a couple of close calls then got the collar, hasnt happened since.
The general consensus is to go to the electric collar. I agree to a point. If you are new to the e-collar, you might create more problems than you may already have; timing is everything with corrections particularly with electricity. Lighten the long line's weight by going with a thinner diameter nylon or shorten what you already have, provided of course its not a very nive and expensive leather line.
The tree of Freedom needs to be nurtured with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. Thomas Paine
One of the things I have done with long line savy dogs is to use Heavy nylon fishing line (150 lb test and up). The dog forgets it is on almost immediatly, you can make it any length you need, it is strong (but streachs a bit), and you can make a correction with it. The only problem with it is wear gloves while you are working with it. It will leave a nasty burn on your hands if you are stoping dog going full tilt. I have never had it cut me, but if the line was a little lighter it could cut through your skin.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
Thinking about your situation some more, I have this to ask: are you sure you spent enough time on your foundation building with ON leash obedience. I have taken a page out of the books of Heinz Gerdes and Ernst Philipps, both BSP participants; I no not take my dog of leash until about a year after obedience begins and that's only for proofing and MY confidence. The theory behind this is that the leash / line is omni-present and after time, is ignored. I let my dog drag the line or drape the leash over his back while doing obedience. I do vary the length of time and resistence I put on the line or leash so he does not know what to expect. This might not be applicable to your situation as you have a young dog and seem to be concentrating more on the home protection aspect of obedience versus the competion preparation aspect. I rotate my older competion dog into the house after retirement so the obedience foundation is concrete and I really don't have to think about it.
The tree of Freedom needs to be nurtured with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. Thomas Paine
Thanks for all your suggestions to my problem.I guess I was in too much of a hurry to be off leash. I have been going to a trainer for a few weeks. He has me working on his attention using a tug. He saw the dog bolt once when he got loose in his training area. He did say we would probably go to an E collar in the future. Jerry
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