MeganMcCallister wrote 04/29/2009 01:56 PM Fresh Fish Consumption Question #237986 - 04/29/2009 01:56 PM
MeganMcCallister Webboard User Reg: 08-08-2006 Posts: 182 Loc: WV Offline	Here's a consumption chart for fresh fish out of WV waters: please check your URL bbcode syntax!!! http://www.wvdnr.gov/Fishing/Regs09/2009fishRegsFishConsumptionAdvisoi%20ries.pdf Would the advisories for humans be the same as canines?
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Aaron Myracle wrote 04/29/2009 01:57 PM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: MeganMcCallister ] #237987 - 04/29/2009 01:57 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Probably not, because they're assuming the fish is well-cooked.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/29/2009 02:05 PM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: MeganMcCallister ] #237988 - 04/29/2009 02:05 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: MeganMcCallister Here's a consumption chart for fresh fish out of WV waters: please check your URL bbcode syntax!!! http://www.wvdnr.gov/Fishing/Regs09/2009fishRegsFishConsumptionAdvisoi%20ries.pdf Would the advisories for humans be the same as canines? Remember that mercury and many other contaminants (especially metals) have nothing to do with raw v. cooked. Many parasites, yes indeed, are killed when cooked. Many, in fact, are killed from low-temp freezing.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/29/2009 02:11 PM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #237990 - 04/29/2009 02:11 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	And here's another appropriate spot to remind us all not to feed raw salmonids from west of the Cascades. The Nanophyetus salmincola, a parasite that is harmless itself but can have Neorickettsia helminthoeca poisoning that can and does kill dogs, is also killed when cooked.
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MeganMcCallister wrote 05/06/2009 09:56 AM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #238851 - 05/06/2009 09:56 AM
MeganMcCallister Webboard User Reg: 08-08-2006 Posts: 182 Loc: WV Offline	Fresh carp are one of the fish I'm considering adding to their diets weekly. We bowfish for them, and the carcasses have to be disposed of. Here's the best nutritional info for them raw that I could find: please check your URL bbcode syntax!!! http://www.elook.org/nutrition/shellfish/3616.html It's relatively high in protein (good, right?) and cholestrol (not so good?), and low in sodium and carbs (both good?). Just looking to see if anyone had any other thoughts to add, and if they saw in problems in feeding a fish or two a week.
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Michael_Wise wrote 05/06/2009 10:30 AM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: MeganMcCallister ] #238852 - 05/06/2009 10:30 AM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Megan, that chart you posted is good to go by for the dogs, too. It is listing contaminates that will apply to your dogs as well. And you don't have to worry about the nutrient breakdown of the fish, either. Any new food needs to be added to the diet slowly and in small portions to make sure that it agrees with your dogs stomach. As far as carp in particular, I have no idea if there are any precautions specific to that species.
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Jo Harker wrote 05/06/2009 10:35 AM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: Michael_Wise ] #238853 - 05/06/2009 10:35 AM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	Dogs seldom need to worry about cholesterol. Only a few disorders would affect their ability to eat high cholesterol foods...and I don't know them off the top of my head. I just know because I perused medical sites when Hambone was having problems. Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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MeganMcCallister wrote 05/06/2009 01:22 PM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: Jo Harker ] #238885 - 05/06/2009 01:22 PM
MeganMcCallister Webboard User Reg: 08-08-2006 Posts: 182 Loc: WV Offline	Thanks for that info Jo, I wasn't sure if cholesterol was one of the things to look for or not. Michael, were you referring to the first chart I posted? If so, anyone know if you can get rid of dioxin by freezing it? I've been googling it, but haven't came up with that bit of info yet.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 05/06/2009 01:27 PM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: MeganMcCallister ] #238888 - 05/06/2009 01:27 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Anything with the suffix "oxin" sounds as though it is a toxin... which means, no, freezing wouldn't effect it if it was already present in the food.
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Michael_Wise wrote 05/06/2009 01:32 PM Re: Fresh Fish Consumption Question [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #238890 - 05/06/2009 01:32 PM
Michael_Wise Webboard User Reg: 07-10-2006 Posts: 4454 Loc: Arkansas Offline	Quote: meganmccallister If so, anyone know if you can get rid of dioxin by freezing it? I've been googling it, but haven't came up with that bit of info yet.  Quote: alyssa myracle Anything with the suffix "oxin" sounds as though it is a toxin... which means, no, freezing wouldn't effect it if it was already present in the food. Nope. The chart is for toxins. Which would be the main concern for me, and what I'm referring to when I suggest that one check with their local game and fish about problems with fish in their area.  Quote: Connie Sutherland Remember that mercury and many other contaminants (especially metals) have nothing to do with raw v. cooked. Many parasites, yes indeed, are killed when cooked. Many, in fact, are killed from low-temp freezing.
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