 Correction with prong
#238092 - 04/30/2009 08:45 AM |
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Well, I am going to get a prong for Lucy. She is doing very well on not bolting, but very much still wanting to pull while in a collar.
I watched how to put on a prong and it is on top if the dog's neck, but corrections I have seen have been to the side.
So, my only qestion right now is:
When correction is needed, pull sideways or up?
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Re: Correction with prong
[Re: Jo Harker ]
#238096 - 04/30/2009 09:00 AM |
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You want a quick, firm pop, as opposed to a slower pulling motion...
With a beagle (she's a beagle, right?) I think you will end up with an upward motion somewhat, just because she's pretty close to the ground.
(if it's fitted correctly, a firm wrist flick will give you an effective correction)
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#238097 - 04/30/2009 09:36 AM |
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Yep, Beagle. I can visualize the firm wrist flick. Thanks.
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Re: Correction with prong
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#239823 - 05/14/2009 09:07 PM |
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Something I found useful for illustrating the difference between a pop versus a pull was putting a collar on a sturdy tree branch. You'll know instantly if you're pulling on the leash. 
In my inexperience opinion, I think it depends on what you're correcting for. If it's leash pulling I try to correct rearward, I'm 6'5" so all corrections tend to go upward even with big dogs, to convey the direction I want the dog to go. For a down I correct towards the ground and for sit I correct straight up. If it's a behavior correction I always pop towards my body while giving the appropriate command (leave it, enough, come, come here, etc.).
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#239837 - 05/15/2009 06:54 AM |
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Thanks. Although, since I have never used a prong, that seems like a lot of corrections. Not criticizing, just wondering if you do that much correcting or if it just sounds like it?
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Re: Correction with prong
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#239844 - 05/15/2009 08:36 AM |
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I think the number of corrections depends on the behavior and the desired end result.
For instance, walking nicely. Dog pulls, you pop, he relaxes and walks a bit, begins to pull, you pop, he relaxes..... At some point he will walk nicely.
Another point, you are walking and the dog growls and lunges at a kid, one level 10 correction. Period. Dog stops and most likley will not do it again.
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#239851 - 05/15/2009 09:11 AM |
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The non-negotiable behavior gets an immediate level 10 so it is solidified in the dog's brain?
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#239853 - 05/15/2009 09:21 AM |
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Simply put yes. But this behavior has to be "over the top" - such as aggressively lunging at a child for instance.
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#239855 - 05/15/2009 09:23 AM |
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I get it: chasing cars, lunging at kids or humans, etc would be the level 10. No level 10 just because you are tired of training. Good. I thought that was what you and everyone else meant, but I had to be sure.
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#239866 - 05/15/2009 10:52 AM |
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Hey Jo, with Lucy being older and you really not having a way to know what if any training she's ever had I'd take it easy with the prong. I would use it gently and more in a way of guiding her then correcting her. Gentle, kinda easy pops like a tap on the shoulder getting her attention.
I probably missed something in other threads but I'm guessing she just finds everything interesting enough to ignore where you want her to go and is following her nose to what she wants. Unless theres some risk like Peter was saying I would be real patient with the pulling and not heeling with her.
I would probably do it in the direction you want, but mainly not much of a harsh correction.
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