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connie,
not sure i ever mentioned clicker work. i've never actually used a clicker in training.
Clicker or verbal marker -- both work. 
ah! well in that case, our last trainer taught us using the word "yes!" in a very enthusiatic voice. so, for instance, when walking, and holding out a treat, if she looks back, i will say "yes!" and then maybe on every third or so look back (still using the "yes!", i will give her the treat. Sometimes i will hold out longer though, to see how far we can actually get with her walking on a loose(er) leash, and looking back at me every once in a while. i use the "yes!" when working on general obedience as well.
what we learned in regards to her reactivity, which we don't practice as much because it's hard to find a good spot to do it, is if we are sitting at a distance from other dogs, i will say "check it out" for her to look at the dog, and then say "yes!" immediately in order to not even give her enough time to react before she gets a treat, and eventually she gets to the point where she is looking, not reacting, and then looking back at me for the treat. this is a wonderful technique! but like i said only really works at a distance where we can watch and observe without many distractions.. |
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Re: dog-reactive & pulling dog
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#240072 - 05/17/2009 03:37 PM |
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Are you familiar with the book "Control Unleashed - creating a focused and confident dog"? It is a very good read for those dealing with fear based/over the top excitement/reactive issues in dogs.
It is a marker based training book and I found many helpful ideas for working with my dog reactive dog.
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#240099 - 05/17/2009 11:08 PM |
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so, for instance, when walking, and holding out a treat, if she looks back, i will say "yes!" and then maybe on every third or so look back (still using the "yes!", i will give her the treat. Sometimes i will hold out longer though, to see how far we can actually get with her walking on a loose(er) leash, and looking back at me every once in a while. This is good.
The only thing that I would change is how you are rewarding.
Your marker, "YES", is a promise that reward is coming. You should reward after every "YES".
The way that you are varying the length of time she has to perform a command is great though.
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#240619 - 05/21/2009 02:06 PM |
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makes sense. but aren't we eventually going to try to phase out the treats or not use them as much. or do we use treats forever?
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#240622 - 05/21/2009 02:15 PM |
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makes sense. but aren't we eventually going to try to phase out the treats or not use them as much. or do we use treats forever?
Yes, you will phase out tangible rewards, from always to usually to sometimes to random.
But I never give an empty marker. The marker means "reward coming."
And there will be new behaviors that you will undertake, again beginning the same way.
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#240623 - 05/21/2009 02:17 PM |
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Just want to add that the reward used the way you are describing is a bribe, or lure, rather than a reward.
Have you ordered the LB Marker video, or am I thinking of another thread?
The rewards are not displayed in marker work.
http://leerburg.com/219.htm
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#240624 - 05/21/2009 02:20 PM |
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Right.
Although, I still pay-up every now and then for my dog. This is after he knows the commands. And the "YES" marker is no longer being used.
The marker is for teaching new exercises/commands.
Make sense? Post back if it doesn't.
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#240626 - 05/21/2009 02:22 PM |
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makes sense. but aren't we eventually going to try to phase out the treats or not use them as much. or do we use treats forever?
Yes, you will phase out tangible rewards, from always to usually to sometimes to random.
But I never give an empty marker. The marker means "reward coming."
And there will be new behaviors that you will undertake, again beginning the same way. What she said. 
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#240628 - 05/21/2009 02:22 PM |
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I'm not saying that this is required to do marker work outdoors (nothing is, but a pocket full of tiny rewards), but this http://leerburg.com/736.htm is one of my all-time favorite tools.
I found out a couple of weeks ago that it even washes great in the washing machine, on "gentle," with a towel in there with it. I had allowed one of mine to get moldy from meat treats left in it, and now it's as good as new.
It's plastic-lined, it can be worn in front or back, it even has a separate pocket I use for my keys, and it can be "loaded" and stuck in the 'fridge, always ready.
The reward pouch can snap into an "open" position or snapped closed again.
All in all, it's pretty perfect.
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