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So I have just taken new puppy to the vet for checkup. (not my normal vet)
I was pre-warned from here that vets might not like it. But if I hadn't read this site I would have been very concerned that the vet said not to feed it.
She got very agitated, going from friendly to a bit aggressive when I answered her question about food and said raw.
Apparently lots of the raw fed dogs she has seen have serious deficiencies especially amino-acids.
How could you tell if a dog had an amino-acid deficiency?
When I refused to change diet she said she would make a note in my file. What's that all about?
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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I would change vets. Not only is this vet trying to bully you, but she is a moron.
Amino acids when the term is used the way she used it are indeed provided by protein. She did not choose a very good term to scare you with, because vets are more likely to protest "too much protein" in a fresh raw diet.
Here is what I would do: I would call and say "I thought that I'd better read up on what the vet said. Could you give me some material suggestions so I can read up on amino acid deficiency in dogs?"
Then post the answer, because I am rubbing my hands together gleefully.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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As to your actual question, I wonder what the vets think commercial foods are (supposed to be) made of. If they are very very good ones (not the kinds vets sell), they are made of meat protein. That is, the same thing that a raw diet supplies.
Use variety (which you know already; I am just adding it for new readers). That's the best way to supply every macro- and micro-nutrient and cover every base. Unfortunately, that's not easy with commercial crap-in-a-bag (possible, except for well-protected long-chain Omega 3s, but not easy). It's quite easy with real fresh foods.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Quote: tanith wheeler
.... When I refused to change diet she said she would make a note in my file. What's that all about?
That's easy to answer. It means that forevermore, whenever you take your dog in, raw food will be brought up as the problem.
If your dog ever broke a claw, scratched a leg, or especially had any kind of internal-organ problem, the answer would be "I told you not to feed raw. This is your fault."
I am serious that you will never be able to work with a vet who not only becomes "a bit aggressive" but makes something up on the spur of the moment because it has more than two syllables.
P.S. Get one of the books Leerburg sells, if you haven't yet. Two of the best are inexpensive paperbacks. Read up and you cannot be intimidated.
Here is what I would do: I would call and say "I thought that I'd better read up on what the vet said. Could you give me some material suggestions so I can read up on amino acid deficiency in dogs?"
Then post the answer, because I am rubbing my hands together gleefully.
Yes. Please do this.
Or give me the number and I'll call.
Wonder if my cell phone plan covers international calls?
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008
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Find a new vet. Honestly, it makes no sense to begin a relationship with this person (and give lots of money to) when you don't agree on the most elemental points of dog care. Doesn't sound like this is a good fit for either of you.
You're not likely to change the vet's mind (and why should you? That's not your job.)
I hate it when medical professionals (for people or animals) forget which one of you has the money. Despite their medical title, this IS still a commercial transaction. You are a customer and deserve service that matches your needs, not the other way around.
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