Sarah Morris wrote 06/05/2009 09:12 PM Marking at the Vet's #242775 - 06/05/2009 09:12 PM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	Is this something you correct for or ignore? True has always sprinkled the vet's office and I never know how to handle it. On the one hand, it seems understandable (and unavoidable) given all the odors hitting him at once. Poor guy chatters, froths, and dribbles urine much of the time he's there. He's pretty keyed up but listens to commands. On the other hand, I have to wonder if this is a big failing on my part and an area that we need to work on? He's completely house trained and totally reliable so should I expect the same behavior at the vet's as I do in a home? The last few visits I've had some success putting him in a sit or a down, as opposed to him standing or moving around, to keep him from marking. But today, when he was in a down, he inhaled the floor and marked it while he was lying down! True
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Connie Sutherland wrote 06/05/2009 09:50 PM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Sarah Morris ] #242782 - 06/05/2009 09:50 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	My dogs try at the vet's too (the only indoor place) and I say no when they start to lift the leg. But they do want to. Lying-down-marking is a new one on me!
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Sarah Morris wrote 06/05/2009 10:08 PM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #242787 - 06/05/2009 10:08 PM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland Lying-down-marking is a new one on me! Doesn't it figure! My dog breaks every mold. I'll correct him for it from now on. True
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Tanith Wheeler wrote 06/06/2009 02:12 AM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Sarah Morris ] #242809 - 06/06/2009 02:12 AM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	Do you think he's scared - dribbling and peeing when lying down doesn't seem typical marking behaviour? My bitch used to display the same behaviour. I left a towel at the vet to get the scent of disinfectanf, dogs etc. on it. Once even I could smell it I brought it home - spent a few weeks giving her treats when she went near it, or asking her to be near it. Then I would take her to the vet at opening time before other dogs had been in and when the disinfectant from the previous day had faded a little. So we'd go in and leave straight away or go in get a treat / toy and go. Eventually she would settle in the waiting room but even now if I'm passing I pop her in to weigh her or something.
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Roni Hoff wrote 06/06/2009 05:31 AM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Tanith Wheeler ] #242812 - 06/06/2009 05:31 AM
Roni Hoff Moderator Reg: 02-24-2002 Posts: 256 Loc: Offline	I believe this is stress. Correcting for this is just going to cause more stress (much like submissive urination). Lifting a leg is different, which I would verbally correct for. Best to give the dog a job. Vet offices are the most challenging environment for all dogs. I don't wait, in the waiting room, waiting for something to go amiss. I stay outside, or leave my dog in the car until it's time to go into the exam room. Dogs are not ready to work on obedience in this environment until they have worked in a number of locations with success. Hope this helps, Happy Training, Roni
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Howard Knauf wrote 06/06/2009 06:48 AM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Roni Hoff ] #242813 - 06/06/2009 06:48 AM
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003 Posts: 1555 Loc: Melbourne, Florida Offline	Lots of doggy smells at the vet triggering leg lifting. I agree with Roni that in Sarah's case it's stress. I always use the treats at my vet to work with the boys when inside. It's a great time to reinforce the eye contact game under distraction. Howard http://www.spacecoasttactical.com
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Sarah Morris wrote 06/06/2009 11:02 AM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Howard Knauf ] #242821 - 06/06/2009 11:02 AM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	I don't get the impression he's scared. Really keyed up, excited, and yes...he's probably stressed. I've seen vet stress manifest itself in other dogs as abject fear or overt aggression...never stopped to consider that my dog's behavior is just another way of expressing it. Thanks for the advice and suggestions, guys! True
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Anne Jones wrote 06/06/2009 12:50 PM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Sarah Morris ] #242835 - 06/06/2009 12:50 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	If the vets office is busy, I do the same as Ronnie, leave my dogs in the truck until it's time to go into the room at which time I take them in & weigh them & head for the exam room. I ususlly take them back to the truck when done & them come back in & take care of the bill. My reasons for this have nothing to do with distractions, obedience or stress at all. My dogs work anywhere no matter what the distraction. I have a female that is not that dog friendly (especially when 'fluffy' is trying to jump all over her)& have had a number of occassions that people are standing around talking with their dogs on those flexileads & not payiny any attention to where the dogs are wandering. I have had to ask them to control thier dog to even be able to get in or out of the office doors. Of course then you get the #1 question: Isn't your dog friendly, etc, ect, ect. GRRRRRRR! Bringing the dogs in when the exam room is empty & ready for you is alot easier for all concerned. Just my experiences & what works best for me & my dogs. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Sarah Morris wrote 06/06/2009 02:46 PM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Anne Jones ] #242838 - 06/06/2009 02:46 PM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	Quote: anne jones have had a number of occassions that people are standing around talking with their dogs on those flexileads & not payiny any attention to where the dogs are wandering. I have had to ask them to control thier dog to even be able to get in or out of the office doors. Of course then you get the #1 question: Isn't your dog friendly, etc, ect, ect. GRRRRRRR! Oh boy.... Happened last week at the derm vet with a woman's tiny Fluffy suddenly coming right at us through a door we had to go through to get to the exam room. And yes, it was on one of those damn flexileads. "Oh don't worry...Fluffy just LUUUVES big dogs." "Pull him back...you don't know if my dog HATES little dogs". Heh, heh...her jaw dropped and Fluffy disappeared. True
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JessicaKromer wrote 06/06/2009 03:37 PM Re: Marking at the Vet's [Re: Sarah Morris ] #242847 - 06/06/2009 03:37 PM
JessicaKromer Webboard User Reg: 10-28-2006 Posts: 991 Loc: CA Offline	GGGRRRRRRR..... It happens all the time, and I have big scarry Rotts!! Clasic reaction though! Jessica
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