Tanith Wheeler wrote 07/02/2009 08:31 AM Leaving dog in cars #245107 - 07/02/2009 08:31 AM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8129826.stm 2 police dogs left in off-duty officers personal car outside police station died as a result of heat stroke. What a waste.
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Barbara Schuler wrote 07/02/2009 09:17 AM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Tanith Wheeler ] #245113 - 07/02/2009 09:17 AM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	ABSOLUTELY no excuse for this level of neglect. I hope the offending individual(s) are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. For this to have involved "professionals" who work with and train these animals is beyond comprehension.
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Matthew Grubb wrote 07/02/2009 01:20 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Barbara Schuler ] #245160 - 07/02/2009 01:20 PM
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002 Posts: 637 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa. Offline	Tanith... any idea whether K9 Handlers in that area are given "take home cars" or is transporting the dogs in your personal car a common thing? Are many K9 vehicles in England equipped with heat alarms like they are here in the US? http://www.NAPWDA.com
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Tanith Wheeler wrote 07/02/2009 01:35 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Matthew Grubb ] #245161 - 07/02/2009 01:35 PM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	No they have to use personal vehicles to take dogs into work and out of work. I know the vans they use when on duty have air-conditioning, insulation etc. I have never heard of a heat alarm in a vehicle - good idea though.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 07/02/2009 01:41 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Matthew Grubb ] #245162 - 07/02/2009 01:41 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	It angers me, right from the start that the word devestated in the title is placed in quotation marks, as if to imply that the Handlers AREN'T devestated. The article is intentionally inflammatory. There are absolutely NO details as to what occured, and the article is clearly presented from the slant that there was negligence on the part of the Handlers. Without the details, it's impossible to determine who may have been at fault- and I think Law Enforcement should be given the benefit of the doubt, in the absence of additional, condemning evidence. (Forgive the grammatical and spelling errors. I'm miffed, to put it mildly.) Just my $0.02
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/02/2009 01:48 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #245163 - 07/02/2009 01:48 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	There are indeed zero details. We know nothing about what happened. Negligence is pre-supposed. Maybe it was there. Maybe it wasn't. We don't know and cannot know from that short piece.
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Tanith Wheeler wrote 07/02/2009 02:07 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #245165 - 07/02/2009 02:07 PM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	Unfortunately at the moment the only information comes from the media who like to inflame opinion. I'm waiting for the police force involved to make a statement. There's been a few incidents in recent years about dogs in police care dying, I won't go into details now but unfortunately people only remember the bad things. Added to that the general public know little about working dogs - sometimes you need to leave a dog in a vehicle, while taking precautions of course. It would be so easy to pop in to get keys to the squad car and get involved in something else - an emergency or something. I didn't post to offend, just wanted to remind people of the danger and maybe discuss it.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/02/2009 02:13 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Tanith Wheeler ] #245167 - 07/02/2009 02:13 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Tanith Wheeler ... I didn't post to offend, just wanted to remind people of the danger and maybe discuss it. ... Yes, and the more reminders the better. It happens dozens of times every year. The more people see this, maybe, the fewer dogs will die in a closed car.
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Tanith Wheeler wrote 07/02/2009 02:22 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #245169 - 07/02/2009 02:22 PM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	We don't tend to get much hot weather - in the past week this is the 4/5th case.
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Doug Alcorn wrote 07/02/2009 02:33 PM Re: Leaving dog in cars [Re: Tanith Wheeler ] #245171 - 07/02/2009 02:33 PM
Doug Alcorn Webboard User Reg: 09-03-2007 Posts: 221 Loc: Cincinnati, OH Offline	Recommendations on devices to keep a car cooled while you're heading into a store? Obviously something more than just a windshield screen. Has anyone tried some solar powered window vents or anything? Suzzie, the Australian Shepherd
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