 Feeding heads....safety issues?
#245675 - 07/06/2009 09:50 PM |
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I found a place where I can buy a whole lamb for $79 - was thinking to split it with Toby (so silly, he wants to eat it instead of having it for the dogs....).
Anyways, I don't think that includes the head. I was going to ask if I could get the head, and then I was thinking if I could get 3 heads so everyone has one.
Toby was all concerned about brain matter and teeth. Would that be removed? If the brain WAS still in the heads, assuming I can get heads, is it safe to give to the dogs (mad cow disease was what Toby was worried about)?
Teagan!
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#245677 - 07/06/2009 10:01 PM |
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I feed mine goats heads, and all that is ever left in the plastic ear tag and the teeth. It is pretty gross actually, and is the one thing I don't like to watch them eat.
I have never had a problem or concern with mad cow disease...
How old is the "lamb" and what was it fed?
Jessica
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#245679 - 07/06/2009 10:11 PM |
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I think it'd kinda neat to watch them eat heads. I've seen board members youtube videos, but never in person.
I don't know how old it is or what it was fed. I'm going to have to check that out....I think we have regulations here around feed but that's never 100%.
What difference does age make? Or do you mean how long it's been aged?
Teagan!
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#245686 - 07/06/2009 11:39 PM |
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Brains and teeth generally are not removed from the heads before they are consumed by dogs. My dogs generally don't eat the teeth, brains yes (maybe that's where the idea of cream cheese in a kong came from). Hmmmm, I think the big dogs ate everything but the metal ear tags from the pig heads (25-30 lb live weight). My Beagles and Chihuahuas never eat teeth.
"Lambs" are generally 4-12 months old.
I wouldn't be concerned about the dogs getting BSE. (Cattle over 36 months old are considered at risk for BSE and slaughter rules change.)
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#245687 - 07/07/2009 12:01 AM |
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What difference does age make? Or do you mean how long it's been aged?
I ask because as Debbie pointed out it is really only seen in older animals, and young, just weaned lamb will have been nursed or fed a milk replacer, and will almost certainly not have had a chance to eat feed that contained rendered animals.
Also, there was a study done in 2001 or 2002 where sheep were injected with MASIVE amounts of the prions and only one ever tested positive. Also, none of the sheep in the UK (where BSE is known to be an issue) that have been tested have ever had TSE outside of laboratory conditions. So the chances of you getting that one in a billion lamb is, well, one in a billion. 
Jessica
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#245690 - 07/07/2009 01:44 AM |
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Not trying to hijack, but does your local butcher supply the heads or does it come from a private source? I have feed my dogs raw food for years but never thought to ask for the head. Is there more nutritional value in the brain? Is it only high in fat?
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#245702 - 07/07/2009 08:37 AM |
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I get some of my meat from Creston Valley Meats . I think I started you on page 2 of the website; keep scrolling through the pages, he has lots of stuff. The price you see listed is the per pound price you pay... He delivers North one week and South the next, and I am sure he gets up to you.
I called and asked for heads specifically, as I haven't seen them on the website in a while. To me, they were just extra variety, but I guess they are pretty bony and would add that...
My old female would not eat them, so if you do get them, don't buy in bulk the first time. 
Jessica
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#245705 - 07/07/2009 09:16 AM |
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Just to verify, are heads also supposed to be frozen before feeding?
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If the brain WAS still in the heads, assuming I can get heads, is it safe to give to the dogs (mad cow disease was what Toby was worried about)? So far there haven't been any cases of BSE or CWD in the canine population. I've said different before, but now I wouldn't say they can't get it, because I simply do not know for sure. No one does.
Still, the lack of transmission of those diseases to dogs makes me feel comfortable feeding mine heads containing brains.
If I had any reason to suspect one of those diseases, you bet your ace I'd skip that particular head, though. Is there more nutritional value in the brain? Is it only high in fat? I think it is pretty high in omega 3 fatty acids. Confirm that before you listen to me, though.
Still, it is part of the prey animal and important in that regard to me. Just to verify, are heads also supposed to be frozen before feeding? Animals USDA approved for human consumption should have heads that are fit for our dogs.
If you normally freeze wild game, freeze the head as well.
Basically do the same with the head that you would do with any other part of that animal's body.
They don't need any special treatment if that is what you are asking.:smile:
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#245855 - 07/08/2009 07:58 AM |
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Just to verify, are heads also supposed to be frozen before feeding? Animals USDA approved for human consumption should have heads that are fit for our dogs.
If you normally freeze wild game, freeze the head as well.
Basically do the same with the head that you would do with any other part of that animal's body.
They don't need any special treatment if that is what you are asking.:smile:
You answered my questions, thanks Michael  !
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